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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vermiculite in its pure form does not contain asbestos. However, if the vermiculite is mined from earth that also contains asbestos, well then there you have it. Many retailers stopped carrying asbestos for this reason, even though it was only vermiculite sourced from a few mines that had problems.


I just looked that up. It seems the Libby, MT mine was the exception, not the norm. I assumed they mined the vermiculite and processed it into commercial asbestos.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vermiculite in its pure form does not contain asbestos. However, if the vermiculite is mined from earth that also contains asbestos, well then there you have it. Many retailers stopped carrying asbestos for this reason, even though it was only vermiculite sourced from a few mines that had problems.


To quote Johnny Carson...."I did not know that".
Thankx for the heads up.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well thanks for the heads up, I had no idea. I'll be getting rid of my bag of vermiculite now Wink I'd rather be safe and not take the chance.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vermiculite in its pure form does not contain asbestos. However, if the vermiculite is mined from earth that also contains asbestos, well then there you have it. Many retailers stopped carrying asbestos for this reason, even though it was only vermiculite sourced from a few mines that had problems.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rubber Tramp wrote:
Not sure if vermiculite contains asbestos but you can use any insulation material...


I'm not trying to pick on you personally, but Vermiculite IS asbestos.
I'm not sure how they still get away with selling it. It's good in gardens because the microscopic sharp edges repel slugs and snails....and cut your lung tissue.
In Libby MT, they made the base paths on the local ball fields out of soil containing vermiculite. Turns out, not such a good idea.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just stating an alternative, someone might find it useful. It's fun to build and cook with, and is very efficient. Can full of asbestos? Not sure if vermiculite contains asbestos but you can use any insulation material... perlite, clay, ash... And a simple wet cloth gets off any soot build up.

You do not have to use kegs, coffee cans will work. You can also make it any size to fit your needs. The one I made was free, any restaurant will have empty cans to throw away.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rocket Stove



Not really sure what the advantage of that is. It's a huge keg full of asbestos that gets your pots covered in soot. All so you can cook with twigs?
Camp fuel is cheap and burns clean. If you are really cheap, make a popcan alcohol stove.

Plus, you have to buy $40 of shitty beer. You could buy a nice stove for that money!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the topic of backup stoves, I've found this to be very handy.

Actually this is my primary stove for cooking, I have a coleman gas stove used as backup on rainy days or when I need a more stealthy way of cooking.

It's called the rocket stove, all you need is a handful of twigs to cook up a meal or boil some water.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Westy Camping Tips Reply with quote

Vanagon Nut wrote:
Vanagon Nut wrote:
climberjohn wrote:
Vanagon Nut wrote:
Hi all.

I recently discovered that a tiny critter had gnawed at a Clif bar in my cupboard. (likely a squirrel. Shakes fist: "darned squirrels!" #2gunfire Wink ) I decided to start keeping gnawable stuff in containers.

Two 1.8 gal/6.8L RubberMaid "Handi Box's" (14 x 30.5 x 4") *just* fit between upper/lower shelf in my '81 Westy sink cabinet. They make pretty good use of the space.

Neil.


Heyo Neil,

Those boxes sound perfect. Where did you buy them?


Oh man. You're asking a lot here. The grey matter assigned to that memory is long gone... Wink


Ok. An appropriate synapse(s) fired.

Home Depot possibly?

Neil.


Looks like a Wally mart or Target item.......

Look at the Rubbermaid website and you may get lucky.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:25 am    Post subject: Re: Westy Camping Tips Reply with quote

Vanagon Nut wrote:
climberjohn wrote:
Vanagon Nut wrote:
Hi all.

I recently discovered that a tiny critter had gnawed at a Clif bar in my cupboard. (likely a squirrel. Shakes fist: "darned squirrels!" #2gunfire Wink ) I decided to start keeping gnawable stuff in containers.

Two 1.8 gal/6.8L RubberMaid "Handi Box's" (14 x 30.5 x 4") *just* fit between upper/lower shelf in my '81 Westy sink cabinet. They make pretty good use of the space.

Neil.


Heyo Neil,

Those boxes sound perfect. Where did you buy them?


Oh man. You're asking a lot here. The grey matter assigned to that memory is long gone... Wink


Ok. An appropriate synapse(s) fired.

Home Depot possibly?

Neil.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PDX. Airport. Of course!

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:48 am    Post subject: Re: Westy Camping Tips Reply with quote

[quote="Vanagon Nut"][quote="climberjohn"]
Vanagon Nut wrote:
Hi all.

But it looks like you're in PDX (why do Portlanders call it that?)



PDX is the Airport Code for Portland. For comparison, SFO is the airport code for San Francisco.

I don't know why, Portland is quirky that way.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:31 am    Post subject: Re: Westy Camping Tips Reply with quote

climberjohn wrote:
Vanagon Nut wrote:
Hi all.

I recently discovered that a tiny critter had gnawed at a Clif bar in my cupboard. (likely a squirrel. Shakes fist: "darned squirrels!" #2gunfire Wink ) I decided to start keeping gnawable stuff in containers.

Two 1.8 gal/6.8L RubberMaid "Handi Box's" (14 x 30.5 x 4") *just* fit between upper/lower shelf in my '81 Westy sink cabinet. They make pretty good use of the space.

Neil.


Heyo Neil,

Those boxes sound perfect. Where did you buy them?


Oh man. You're asking a lot here. The grey matter assigned to that memory is long gone... Wink

Likely Canadian Tire. Possibly London Drugs. But it looks like you're in PDX (why do Portlanders call it that?)

RubberMaid has it online:

http://www.rubbermaid.com/rubbermaid/product/product.jhtml?prodId=HPProd260059#

To be sure, here's what they look like. Of note, one drawback is they "cover" the area at front of cabinet. No tall stuff allowed.



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:51 am    Post subject: Re: Westy Camping Tips Reply with quote

Vanagon Nut wrote:
Hi all.

I recently discovered that a tiny critter had gnawed at a Clif bar in my cupboard. (likely a squirrel. Shakes fist: "darned squirrels!" #2gunfire Wink ) I decided to start keeping gnawable stuff in containers.

Two 1.8 gal/6.8L RubberMaid "Handi Box's" (14 x 30.5 x 4") *just* fit between upper/lower shelf in my '81 Westy sink cabinet. They make pretty good use of the space.

Neil.


Heyo Neil,

Those boxes sound perfect. Where did you buy them?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

r39o wrote:
http://zenstoves.net/LinksGeneral-DIY.htm

The alcohol Pepsi can stove is a personal fav we use in scouting a lot.

Of course, for the Westy, a tap system for 1 pound propane cans works well, too.


But of course. I got a gd MIG. Rolling Eyes I'm sure I could make something!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:53 pm    Post subject: Re: In My Evil Moments... Reply with quote

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The "4 corner" tag is mostly shite, but, well we'll see.


I have evil thoughts about making a metal 'forgery' of my PERFECTLY GOOD tag--that is rusting through--out of something that wouldn't rust and sealing that onto the tank. The tank is fine, it's just the WRETCHED LABEL that's rotting off, because of the LOUSY way they attached it!

Best!


Yes. Agreed. Truly Wretched. What were they thinking? (they weren't Wink )

Sadly, it seems there is a hole rusting through the middle of my tag too. I assume any alphanumeric codes, secret or otherwise, (cuz they are now) are all but gone. But as they say: when there's a will, there's a way.

Maybe I could get some fridge magnet letters to spell "Manchester"?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://zenstoves.net/LinksGeneral-DIY.htm

The alcohol Pepsi can stove is a personal fav we use in scouting a lot.

Of course, for the Westy, a tap system for 1 pound propane cans works well, too.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:04 pm    Post subject: In My Evil Moments... Reply with quote

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The "4 corner" tag is mostly shite, but, well we'll see.


I have evil thoughts about making a metal 'forgery' of my PERFECTLY GOOD tag--that is rusting through--out of something that wouldn't rust and sealing that onto the tank. The tank is fine, it's just the WRETCHED LABEL that's rotting off, because of the LOUSY way they attached it!

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Bill W wrote:
Coleman dual fuel burner. Coleman fuel or unleaded gas. Gas? I got lotsa' gas. Very Happy


Never knew that type of stove existed. Thanks.

Gas? Well in that case, no need for an Extend A Stay to stay warm! Wink

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