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Houstonr Samba Member
Joined: February 01, 2009 Posts: 399 Location: Frisco Texas
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:39 pm Post subject: Full Clutch overhaul check list. |
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67 T3 Swing Axle
I am really curious if
1. anyone sees anything missing from the list below? or any recommendations.
2. What do people recommend for the Throw-Out Shaft/Fork/Arm thing? Are the bugpack HD kits worth a crap? I have read about some having fitment issues etc... I just want it to go as smoothly as possible.
thanks in advance, H
Pressure Plate Kennedy Stage 1
Clutch Disc Sachs Sprung
Throw-Out Bearing Sachs German
Throw Out fork Bugpack? Other?
Throw Out bushing kit stock?
Gland Nut/Washer Chromoly
Flywheel Lightened 12lb 8 dowel
Flywheel Shims standard
Transmission Mounts (all) HD x 2 plus nosecone/sleeve
Transmission side seals (leaky) standard
axle tubes (mine are rusty) berg:used
Pressure Plate mount kit Bugpack? Other?
Flywheel Seal standard
Axle side reinforcement Cip1 house brand |
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Mike Fisher Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 17961 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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Beef up the clutch so you can blow transmissions/hubs etc? Have fun driving that Kennedy Stage 1 etc. in Traffic! _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
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Houstonr Samba Member
Joined: February 01, 2009 Posts: 399 Location: Frisco Texas
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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only reason I thought to go with stage one is to avoid all the BS I read about the SACHS clutches. I seem to see far less bitching about the Kennedy quality.
So you think its overkill? They are a few bucks cheaper too, but that wasnt my motive. |
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blankmange Type 3 Darksider
Joined: July 17, 2004 Posts: 11498 Location: Bloßer Stahl-preapocalyptic MidCoast
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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Sachs clutch in my square now... Sachs clutch in my 1600 before the 1776...
no problems... _________________ póg mo thóin
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 33820 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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Cable, Bowden tube, tube/body seal. |
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Russ Wolfe Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2004 Posts: 25187 Location: Central Iowa
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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I have been installing clutches in VW's for the last 45 years. I have never had a problem with a Sachs clutch. _________________ Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up, you end up with a lot of scum on the top!--Edward Abbey
Gary: OK. Ima poop. |
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Houstonr Samba Member
Joined: February 01, 2009 Posts: 399 Location: Frisco Texas
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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KTPhil wrote: |
Cable, Bowden tube, tube/body seal. |
check. except the body seal.. I'll do that now. thanks |
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Houstonr Samba Member
Joined: February 01, 2009 Posts: 399 Location: Frisco Texas
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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Russ Wolfe wrote: |
I have been installing clutches in VW's for the last 45 years. I have never had a problem with a Sachs clutch. |
are you die hard on the German only Sachs or is the Brazilian clutch just as good? |
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Russ Wolfe Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2004 Posts: 25187 Location: Central Iowa
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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I use what I can get. I have not had a problem with German, or Brazilian clutches.
Only time you need to go to a Kennedy, is if you have really high performance.
A friend of mine has a Kennedy 1700 lb in his car, and it will not handle his 7600 rpm shifts when it is hot.
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_________________ Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up, you end up with a lot of scum on the top!--Edward Abbey
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rustyfastback Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2002 Posts: 839 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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I have a kennedy 1700lb w/ sachs non-sprung rigid disk in my '66 squareback. A little heavy on the foot in traffic. Also broke the clutch pedal & cable once already. I am running a stock sachs brazil pressure plate w/ sachs non-sprung rigid disc in my '68 squareback. No problems out of the sachs pressure plate. I would use a rigid (non-sprung) clutch disc instead of the sprung clutch disc. |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76706 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Make sure your new flywheel is NOT a cast unit. _________________ Glenn
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Houstonr Samba Member
Joined: February 01, 2009 Posts: 399 Location: Frisco Texas
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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What's the opinion on the throw out shaft replacement? Go with the somewhat pricey BugPack kit? Is that overkill as well? Do the fit worth a crap? Are the included bushing and clips good as well? Thanks again |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 33820 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:55 am Post subject: |
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The bushing/clip kit I had bought mail order years ago was so bad I reused my old parts. Some of them are crap! Unfortunately, I can't tell you where I bought it, making my post pretty useless... |
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 21462 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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Never had a single problem with Sachs or luk clutches...no matter the make. German, Mexican, Brazilian, Chec republic etc.
Ray |
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