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bill may
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| BarryL wrote: |
| One guy paid $35 one guy paid $45. One guy said "no sticker" one guy said "sticker and metal tab". I want to get mine to replace my og stolen one but I thought I'd wait till all the rush died down. Sound's like any time is as good as the next. |
have a brand new plate made for your westy Barry,you do not need "year of manufacture" for your bus/westy. unless you told them 1 plate was stolen and you now have white lipstick plates on it.
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BarryL 
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| Can't do. The cops and DMV know so it's now a hot plate. I have an nos set I've been saving that are already clear. |
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Dave24
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Location: Hablamos Ingles, So. Cal.
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Barry ,
You will need the following:
$45
2 identical original black plates
a sticker corresponding with the year of vehicle you are trying to register.
a YOM application.
you will receive a metal tab and a new year sticker + new registration back from DMV with your new plate # in about 30 days time.
hope this helps, there is no rush on these things, most dmv employees are pretty helpful. |
Barry, it's $35 not $45, and no sticker req'd. 60-90 days to rec. new perm. reg. from sac. in the mail. |
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Doubledoor Dave
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| big wavos wrote: |
Barry ,
You will need the following:
$45
2 identical original black plates
a sticker corresponding with the year of vehicle you are trying to register.
a YOM application.
you will receive a metal tab and a new year sticker + new registration back from DMV with your new plate # in about 30 days time.
hope this helps, there is no rush on these things, most dmv employees are pretty helpful. |
Barry, it's $35 not $45, and no sticker req'd. 60-90 days to rec. new perm. reg. from sac. in the mail. |
from the California DMV website.....
Model Year Date License Plates
5004.1. (a) (1) ( )1 An owner of a vehicle that is a 1969 or older model-year vehicle or the owner of a commercial vehicle or a pickup truck that is a 1972 or older model-year may, after the requirements for the registration of the vehicle are complied with and with the approval of the department, utilize license plates of this state with the date of year corresponding to the model-year date when the vehicle was manufactured, if the model-year date license plate is legible and serviceable, as determined by the department, in lieu of the license plates otherwise required by this code.(2) The department may consult with an organization of old car hobbyists in determining whether the date of year of the license plate corresponds to the model-year date when the vehicle was manufactured.
(b) A fee of forty-five dollars ($45) shall be charged for the application for the use of the special plates.
(c) In addition to the regular renewal fee for the vehicle for which the plates are authorized, the applicant for a renewal of the plates shall be charged an additional fee of ten dollars ($10). ( )2 If payment of a regular vehicle renewal fee is not required by this code, the holder of license plates with a date corresponding to the model-year may retain the plates upon payment of an annual fee of twenty dollars($20)( )3 that shall be due at the expiration of the registration year of the vehicle to which the plates were last assigned under this section.
(d) ( )4 If a person who is authorized to utilize the special license plates applies to the department for transfer of the plates to another vehicle, a transfer fee of twelve dollars ($12) shall be charged in addition to all other appropriate fees.
Amended Sec. 1, Ch. 497, Stats. 2007. Effective January 1, 2008. Operative July 1, 2009.
Amended Sec. 216, Ch. 179, Stats. 2008. Effective January 1, 2009.
The 2008 amendment added the italicized material, and at the point(s) indicated, deleted the following:
“Subject to paragraph (3), an”
“When”
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“Whenever”
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Doubledoor Dave
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Location: York, Maine
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More from the DMV website....
Year of Manufacture license plates. This new law expands the “Year of Manufacture” license plate program to authorize the owner of a automobile, motorcycle or trailer that is a 1969 or older model year vehicle, or the owner of a commercial vehicle or pickup truck that is 1972 or older model year, to utilize Year of Manufacture license plates, and would increase the original application fee from $35 to $45. The $10 annual renewal fee, $20 plate retention fee, and $12 plate transfer fee remain the same.
The new law would require the inclusion of two active license plate series into the Year of Manufacture program:
Black background with yellow characters – issued 1963 - 1969;
Blue background with yellow characters – issued 1970 - 1990.
To qualify for use, plate configuration cannot have a current record on DMV files. The year sticker displayed on the plates must coincide with the year model of the vehicle being registered with the exception of 1963 year model vehicles.
Black and gold plates without a year sticker can be used for 1963 vehicles as no validating year stickers were issued in 1963. Plates for 1964 through 1972 must be presented with a sticker that matches the year model of the vehicle the plates will be used on. For example, a 1966 Chevy Nomad Wagon will require that a set of black and yellow plates with a 1966 sticker issued by DMV in that year be presented for use. |
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GeorgeL
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More from the DMV website.....
...Blue background with yellow characters – issued 1970 - 1990.... |
Now that opens up a whole new can of worms!  |
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suebug
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| Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| big wavos wrote: |
Barry ,
You will need the following:
$45
2 identical original black plates
a sticker corresponding with the year of vehicle you are trying to register.
a YOM application.
you will receive a metal tab and a new year sticker + new registration back from DMV with your new plate # in about 30 days time.
hope this helps, there is no rush on these things, most dmv employees are pretty helpful. |
Barry, it's $35 not $45, and no sticker req'd. 60-90 days to rec. new perm. reg. from sac. in the mail. |
Dave24, did you NOT need a sticker for your bus since it's a '63? No validating stickers were issued in 1963, right? And for those of us that have black and gold plates without a correct year sticker, where do we find the sticker?
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sam_w
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Dave24
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| Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:06 am Post subject: |
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More from the DMV website....
Year of Manufacture license plates. This new law expands the “Year of Manufacture” license plate program to authorize the owner of a automobile, motorcycle or trailer that is a 1969 or older model year vehicle, or the owner of a commercial vehicle or pickup truck that is 1972 or older model year, to utilize Year of Manufacture license plates, and would increase the original application fee from $35 to $45. The $10 annual renewal fee, $20 plate retention fee, and $12 plate transfer fee remain the same.
The new law would require the inclusion of two active license plate series into the Year of Manufacture program:
Black background with yellow characters – issued 1963 - 1969;
Blue background with yellow characters – issued 1970 - 1990.
To qualify for use, plate configuration cannot have a current record on DMV files. The year sticker displayed on the plates must coincide with the year model of the vehicle being registered with the exception of 1963 year model vehicles.
Black and gold plates without a year sticker can be used for 1963 vehicles as no validating year stickers were issued in 1963. Plates for 1964 through 1972 must be presented with a sticker that matches the year model of the vehicle the plates will be used on. For example, a 1966 Chevy Nomad Wagon will require that a set of black and yellow plates with a 1966 sticker issued by DMV in that year be presented for use. |
So, that clears that up... my bus is a '63, hence no sticker. They charged me $35, so I guess I saved $10?. |
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Dave24
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| Dave24 wrote: |
| big wavos wrote: |
Barry ,
You will need the following:
$45
2 identical original black plates
a sticker corresponding with the year of vehicle you are trying to register.
a YOM application.
you will receive a metal tab and a new year sticker + new registration back from DMV with your new plate # in about 30 days time.
hope this helps, there is no rush on these things, most dmv employees are pretty helpful. |
Barry, it's $35 not $45, and no sticker req'd. 60-90 days to rec. new perm. reg. from sac. in the mail. |
Dave24, did you NOT need a sticker for your bus since it's a '63? No validating stickers were issued in 1963, right? And for those of us that have black and gold plates without a correct year sticker, where do we find the sticker? |
Try Dennis Lefevre @ Dinks type II parts and YOM plates. Samba user name "Papa Dink". He can no doubt get you the sticker you (apparantly) need. PM me for a ph #. |
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crofty
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So you can do the blue and yellow plates too?
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ramble59
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| Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| So you can do the blue and yellow plates too? |
No, but here's a trick you can do if you want bluse plates CA plates.
Find an old set that are DMV clear, create a personalized plate through the DMV with the same license number as the old and then put the original blus CA plate on. It works.
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Dave24
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More from the DMV website....
Year of Manufacture license plates.
The new law would require the inclusion of two active license plate series into the Year of Manufacture program:
Black background with yellow characters – issued 1963 - 1969;
Blue background with yellow characters – issued 1970 - 1990.
To qualify for use, plate configuration cannot have a current record on DMV files. The year sticker displayed on the plates must coincide with the year model of the vehicle being registered with the exception of 1963 year model vehicles.
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Apparantly so. |
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GeorgeL
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| crofty wrote: |
| So you can do the blue and yellow plates too? |
No, but here's a trick you can do if you want bluse plates CA plates.
Find an old set that are DMV clear, create a personalized plate through the DMV with the same license number as the old and then put the original blus CA plate on. It works. |
It might have worked for someone, but one of the requirements for personalized plates is that the number not coincide with any regular series plate.
Now if you can find a set of _personalized_ blue-base plates you can get away with this since they won't be part of any series. |
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KombiMonster
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anyone have the link to the DMV site where you check to see if they are clear?...
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Chick Iverson
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| anyone have the link to the DMV site where you check to see if they are clear?... |
I don't think that there is a site, but the phone number to call to find out is....1-800-777-0133
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bushaus
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I'm going to do mine tomorrow, have an appt at DMV Fullerton. Have all my ducks in a row, hoping for the best. I even asked Dave24 which exact person and exact location did his YOM at as a backup plan in case I get the typical DMV know-nothing jackass!
If I get a good knowledgeable person, I will be sure to get their name for others to pursue!
Also, the phone # to check for clear plates: Don't use that 800 number, its a trainwreck due to the budget cuts. There is a Sac area code # for "special processing" which I can't find right now that works like a charm. Will post when I find it.
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NorCalWeekender
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Makes me wonder if I want to bother doing this...guess it'd be easier if I already had some black/gold plates.
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VolksFire
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More from the DMV website....
Year of Manufacture license plates.
The new law would require the inclusion of two active license plate series into the Year of Manufacture program:
Black background with yellow characters – issued 1963 - 1969;
Blue background with yellow characters – issued 1970 - 1990.
To qualify for use, plate configuration cannot have a current record on DMV files. The year sticker displayed on the plates must coincide with the year model of the vehicle being registered with the exception of 1963 year model vehicles.
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Apparantly so. |
Thats a mistake on the site. Somebody that does not understand the law , or misunderstood made a mistake. The new law does NOT include the blue plates, which are late 69-87 , not 70-90. When Bill AB462 was introduced to legislation, it was made clear that blue plates would not be included. And even the new YOM form at DMV tells you the addition to the YOM law and states that only plates 63-69 and commercial plates 63-72 are added. And the commercial plates for 70-72 may be black or blue. No other blue base plates may be used, except original personal blue plates of course.
and regarding the mentioned way to get personal plates then putting on the blue ones that have the same number.... thats an old trick which people have been doing with black plates before the new law was passed. It's also illegal.
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| and regarding the mentioned way to get personal plates then putting on the blue ones that have the same number.... thats an old trick which people have been doing with black plates before the new law was passed. It's also illegal. |
Nothing is illegal unless you get caught! 
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