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nybugguy
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:34 pm    Post subject: need help with master cylinder.... Reply with quote

I have a fiberglass buggy on a 1974 shortened pan. My problem is trying to get the new wheel cylinders bled.I have tried numerous times to bleed them and I can only get the right front to pump up. The rest just drip out a couple times and that's it. Is it possible for just one wheel to bleed correctly and the other 3 not? Should I just go with a new master and hope that cures the problem. Could there be something plugging up inside the master or some kind of plunger problem?Thought I would consult the experts before buying a new master cylinder. Thanks!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you able to open the bleed screws on each wheel cylinder?

Have you verified that the flex lines are good? Sometimes when they go bad they collapse internally & block the flex line
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nightmanx11 wrote:
Sometimes when they go bad they collapse internally & block the flex line


X2

Replace all the flex hoses.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have replaced my resv. with a rabbit resv. so I got rid of the flex hoses to the master cylinder.I can operate the bleeders on all the wheel cylinders just fine. Do you think it is just a crappy master? If only one wheel will bleed after numerous attempts I think that is my next step.What do you guys think?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nybugguy wrote:
I have replaced my resv. with a rabbit resv. so I got rid of the flex hoses to the master cylinder.I can operate the bleeders on all the wheel cylinders just fine. Do you think it is just a crappy master? If only one wheel will bleed after numerous attempts I think that is my next step.What do you guys think?


They are referring to the flex hoses that lead to the 2 front wheels and the 2 at the rear alongside the frame horns to the rear wheels.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dual or single master cylinder. If single all ports have same pressure so if you have pressure to one you should to all.
If dual it may be possible to have one stage not working but if you can get pressure to one front the other should work as well.
Remove the master cylinder and bench bleed. can you get fluid out of all the ports then?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before you start bleeding the wheel cylinders, tighten all the brake shoe adjusters on that circuit as far as they will go. This will put the shoes right up against the drums and all of the pedal action will go towards pushing fluid out the bleeder. Don't forget to back the adjusters off when you are done!

Oh, and yes, replacing the flex hoses is cheap insurance. They can fail in ways that don't make sense!

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