Steering Wheel and Horn Ring Differences

LuckyMonkeyGarage

It seems like there's allot of confusion about horn rings out there concerning what's correct.

Maybe some of you can help me. I need a horn ring for my 63 Bug.

I have heard that the horn rings that are "D" shaped have a variety of letters that follow the part number 113 951 531. Some have the letter "E" after the part number and some have the letter "F" after the part number?

What's the difference? So far I have run across German and Brazilian, painted silver, straight bar type, chrome in the "D" shape, and repops that seem to be more dished to fit on repop steering wheels that don't have the 2 downward notches.

Photos would be greatly appreciated.
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LuckyMonkeyGarage · Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:13 am Post subject:

Of course you give me all this information and the horn ring that I find is a 113 951 531E

I wonder if this will work on a 63 bug? It matches the steering wheel part number....? Confused

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gerg · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:44 am Post subject:

I have the correct 311 415 651A wheel for my '65, and the bar on it is a 311 951 531
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bugzz1 · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:48 am Post subject:

thats what ive been trying to figure out. so the later horn ring wheels had no cut outs on the wheel itself? if i read that correctly. my says 113 951 531f on a 311 415 651a wheel.

Insaniac · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:31 pm Post subject:

Would the 66-70 steering wheels have the notches for the horn ring? I have a black steering wheel with the bar, and it doesn't have the notches. I'm pretty sure it isn't repainted.

dugsgms · Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:34 am Post subject:

Had to bring this post back to life. I'm in the same spot as LuckyMonkeyGarage. I have a 63 with the steering wheel with the notches. The horn ring is not as nice as I would like it to be so I decided Id get a price to get it re-chromed but got prices ranging from $100 to $200 to have the job done. I know they repop the horn ring that comes with the repop steering wheel w/o the notches but I was wondering it it will fit properly on the wheel with the notches. Lucky, did the "E" ring you got fit?

decobugma07 · Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:17 am Post subject:

maybe this helps http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/wired/wired_04_00/wired_04_00.htm
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GB2S · Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:51 pm Post subject:

So I'm curious, are these horn rings not interchangeable,or is it just they are not correct for the car?

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thedolphinsong · Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:46 pm Post subject:

Now that I am clear on the notch part I have a question. Did the '60through 63 ever have the "horn bar" or the steering wheel without a notch? I have a 61 & it appears that I have a 64 steering wheel on it.
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glutamodo · Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:31 pm Post subject:

No, the 64-65 are 311951531 and the 66-67 are 113951531E

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Lidpainter · Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:05 pm Post subject:

Sorry to add to the confusion but I have a question. I'm finishing up a restoration of a '60 Beetle. The car was a basket case and came with a '59 or earlier steering wheel and steering column which I will not be using. Over the course of the restoration I bought a '62 wheel and column, a '62 horn ring and a '60 horn ring. I have not seen a '60 steering wheel in person so I can't comment on the differences between the '60-'61 and '62-'63 versions however I have compared the '60 and '62 horn rings and found them to be only slightly different in the center(s). That being said, I can't any reason why the '60 horn ring will not work on a '62 steering wheel. Based on what I have read it seems that they won't work together but I can't figure out why. I suppose if I could compare the '60-'61 and '62-'63 steering wheels side by side it would be clear...maybe. Could somebody here in-the-know please educate me on why it can't be done?
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