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vw57drvr Samba Member
Joined: October 23, 2005 Posts: 1705 Location: Rome, Ga
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:48 am Post subject: Horizon Blue Wheel Color |
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Anyone know what the outer rim color should be on a horizon blue oval? I know what the centers should be. If you have an original car that still has color on the wheels, lets see a picture. _________________ 60 Rock Grey Vert |
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Pharquarx Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2005 Posts: 249 Location: Southern California (Orange County)
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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_________________ Charlie
Stock 67 Vert Under Restoration
1958 Lambretta TV175 Series 1
1957 Vespa Messerschmitt 150 GS
1951 Douglas Vespa Rod Type (First month of production!!!)
1970 Triumph T120R (Bonneville)
1950 Vincent Comet
1952 Moto Rumi Sport 125
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IN2VWS Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2006 Posts: 2521 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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Centres should be L82 Silver White
Rims should be L33 Greyish Blue
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vw57drvr Samba Member
Joined: October 23, 2005 Posts: 1705 Location: Rome, Ga
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:18 am Post subject: |
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So where did you find that information? I have looked at Wolfsburg West, but like every other year, most of the detailed stuff like wheel rim color is missing. _________________ 60 Rock Grey Vert |
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IN2VWS Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2006 Posts: 2521 Location: Australia
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vw57drvr Samba Member
Joined: October 23, 2005 Posts: 1705 Location: Rome, Ga
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:27 am Post subject: |
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Very nice! Thanks for that info. That is a nice collection. I wonder why WW doesnt have that info? Regardless of that, Do you happen to have the wheel color combo for a 1960 vert that is L264 Rock gray? Its a one year only color and only for verts. _________________ 60 Rock Grey Vert |
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IN2VWS Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2006 Posts: 2521 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, wheel rims and centres were L87 Pearl White on Rock Grey verts.
All 1960 verts had L87 wheels, except Slate Blue verts. They had L437 White Blue. _________________ ( ⫏ ⫐ )
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vw57drvr Samba Member
Joined: October 23, 2005 Posts: 1705 Location: Rome, Ga
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:53 am Post subject: |
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Great info. Thanks. _________________ 60 Rock Grey Vert |
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deepseeman Samba Member
Joined: January 13, 2004 Posts: 433 Location: san diego
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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L264 rock grey wasnt a one year only color. I have a 58 and just received the certificate today stating it was rock grey. |
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IN2VWS Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2006 Posts: 2521 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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deepseeman wrote: |
L264 rock grey wasnt a one year only color. I have a 58 and just received the certificate today stating it was rock grey. |
I would contact the museum again, and get them to double check the chassis number they looked up. Rock Grey is not a 1958 colour, and it wasn't available in 1958, it was available in 1960. If it was on a later vert like a 61 or 62, I could understand it, as it could have been a special order because the customer liked the older color. But this could not be the case, as Rock Grey didn't exist in 1958. _________________ ( ⫏ ⫐ )
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deepseeman Samba Member
Joined: January 13, 2004 Posts: 433 Location: san diego
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:05 am Post subject: |
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just sent them an email. my vert is a euro. could it be that it was available in europe but not the us? |
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jeffff Samba Member
Joined: February 23, 2006 Posts: 1037 Location: Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:34 am Post subject: |
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Are those rims painted Horizon blue or Greyish blue? |
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IN2VWS Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2006 Posts: 2521 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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They are not greyish blue. _________________ ( ⫏ ⫐ )
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jeffff Samba Member
Joined: February 23, 2006 Posts: 1037 Location: Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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IN2VWS wrote: |
They are not greyish blue. |
Pretty much what I thought. Anyone have a good picture of a Horizon Blue Oval with the proper Greyish Blue wheels?
Part of me thinks that H.B wheels will look better than the G.B....maybe not. |
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Pharquarx Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2005 Posts: 249 Location: Southern California (Orange County)
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:20 am Post subject: |
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jeffff wrote: |
Are those rims painted Horizon blue or Greyish blue? |
They are Horizon Blue. I think that Greyish Blue wheels would look weird, but then again, personal preference. _________________ Charlie
Stock 67 Vert Under Restoration
1958 Lambretta TV175 Series 1
1957 Vespa Messerschmitt 150 GS
1951 Douglas Vespa Rod Type (First month of production!!!)
1970 Triumph T120R (Bonneville)
1950 Vincent Comet
1952 Moto Rumi Sport 125
1973 Ducati 750 Sport |
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ARTIFACT Samba Member
Joined: June 19, 2009 Posts: 816 Location: SANTA CRUZ
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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Original is:
(EDIT - I was wrong )
I was able to obtain the original spare wheel for my Horizon Blue oval, and the color(s) match what I found out when I researched this a few months ago.
I am about to paint my rims to match the original spare. The car was on Fuchs for a while, now back on stock. _________________ L331 Horizon Blue January 1957 Canadian Deluxe Oval Beetle
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vw57drvr Samba Member
Joined: October 23, 2005 Posts: 1705 Location: Rome, Ga
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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What is your proof that horizon blue was a wheel color? I cant find any information other than the color chart that was originally posted. _________________ 60 Rock Grey Vert |
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Pharquarx Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2005 Posts: 249 Location: Southern California (Orange County)
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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I would think that noting the color on an original spare wheel or an original wheel for a Horizon Blue car would be proof enough. All of my rims were Horizon Blue and Pearl White before the restoration, I even went back and looked at my Restoration of My Car Scrap Book to confirm this. This is kind of like asking, "Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?" Greyish Blue wheels on a Horizon Blue car would look really strange. Pearl White and Horizon Blue wheels on a horizon blue car - thing of beauty. I have never seen any documentation to the contrary. In an earlier post on this subject IN2VWS says that it is listed on one of his factory colour combination charts. Maybe, but it still would look strange. _________________ Charlie
Stock 67 Vert Under Restoration
1958 Lambretta TV175 Series 1
1957 Vespa Messerschmitt 150 GS
1951 Douglas Vespa Rod Type (First month of production!!!)
1970 Triumph T120R (Bonneville)
1950 Vincent Comet
1952 Moto Rumi Sport 125
1973 Ducati 750 Sport |
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ARTIFACT Samba Member
Joined: June 19, 2009 Posts: 816 Location: SANTA CRUZ
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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I don't pretend to have any scientific proof
someone had PM'd me some info on this
then I got my original 1957 spare wheel back... It still has a reaaally old looking "Volkswagen Canada" bias-ply tire, the rim is the exact same color as the rest of the car (horizontblau) and a lighter shade I was told is pearl white.
I need to take photos of it!! _________________ L331 Horizon Blue January 1957 Canadian Deluxe Oval Beetle
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IN2VWS Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2006 Posts: 2521 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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It all depends on where your car was made/assembled.
The colors I have posted are for German built cars, NOT Australian/Brazillian/Canadian etc. _________________ ( ⫏ ⫐ )
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