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RIOMX
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Your posts are blank for some reason.
EDIT: Never mind - used quote to see your post text.
Didn't realize their site had a checkout function. Anyway, I added up your list of items and it came out to around $401.88 before shipping.
That pretty much helped me make my decision: no insulation for now. It's gonna have to wait until after the trip. My wife and I might suffer for 2,400 miles, but it can wait. |
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Alex6373
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| 400 or just get better bags to sleep in ! |
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zaakystyles
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Location: Lakewood, CO
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| Looks nice, I just bought some heat/sound insulation from JCWhitney and pasted it everywhere. My nice 300 Watt Dual 10s Kickers sound way nicer in it, and my tach(installed a while ago) is a must need now to make sure I gear right. |
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subwayaz
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Looks like a good method of insulating/sound proofing your van. I picked up some because I don't like the tin sound when closing the doors or the sound coming from my speakers along with all of the road noise.
Thanks for posting such an in depth how to. |
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BUSBOSS
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| subwayaz wrote: |
Looks like a good method of insulating/sound proofing your van. I picked up some because I don't like the tin sound when closing the doors or the sound coming from my speakers along with all of the road noise.
Thanks for posting such an in depth how to. |
You're welcome. Good luck with the project.
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GusC2it
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kruton
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ldsvwguy
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| Asphalt based deadeners will eventually fail. I hate to say it. I almost did the same to my bus, but after doing a crap load of research, it is pretty clear that it will fail sometime. I have read that it was fine for 5 years and others had problems after just 1. For you guys, I hope it is 10. I just figure that I'll get the best Butyl based product I can get for the money. It would just suck to have the P&S fail and have to clean up the mess and start over again. |
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jamracing
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| Asphalt based deadeners will eventually fail. I hate to say it. I almost did the same to my bus, but after doing a crap load of research, it is pretty clear that it will fail sometime. I have read that it was fine for 5 years and others had problems after just 1. For you guys, I hope it is 10. I just figure that I'll get the best Butyl based product I can get for the money. It would just suck to have the P&S fail and have to clean up the mess and start over again. |
Please show us the proof. |
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chazz79
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Ask dodge how well it worked for them. I remember pulling a bunch of that crap out of (and replacing the screwed ones) rear seat belt retracters. A 3x6 inch peice of asphalt landed chrysler in shitloads of trouble. They also had a chunk that would fall off and melt all inside the rear latch mechanism. These safety recalls cost chrysler tens of millions of dollars. Its not something that's debatable, it's cold hard nhtsa backed facts. Use it if you like but never in a gravity affected situation.
Checck up on it, this recall affected 1996-2000 model minivans.
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BUSBOSS
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| The only time I could smell it was during installation. |
I love this statement.
It just says it all.
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GusC2it
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| The only time I could smell it was during installation. |
I love this statement.
It just says it all. |
Yes it does. It says that the only time I could smell it, was when I installed it.
14 months and counting in Hot Florida; no smell, no failure. I don't recommend anything to any one anymore, because I'm a professional. I only report what works or doesn't work for me. Your results may differ.
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kruton
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BUSBOSS
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| thanks for your experience gus. |
X2
Thank you very much for sharing your experience.
We can only hope that many Samba members will learn from it in the future.
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TyWebb
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Like many others, I've been researching facts on asphalt in the hopes that the peel and seal product can be used as a reliable, low cost alternative to high end sound deadeners. I came across the following article in that research: http://www.scribd.com/doc/15253706/Asphalt-Fumes
Quote "In the short term, the effects of exposure to asphalt fumes
can cause irritation of the mucus membrane of the eye, and irritation
of the trachea or lungs. Other less serious symptoms of short-term
exposure to asphalt fumes are skin rashes or irritation, fatigue, and
decreased appetite. The actual fumes that come with asphalt's
applications are only a result of asphalt being heated in excess of two
hundred degrees Fahrenheit. An example of this type of heating is the
heating process associated with road paving."
The article is a pretty good read if you are concerned. My take away from it is that asphalt fumes are dangerous, but are only generated when the product reaches 200+ degrees Farenheit, which won't happen in my application. I will be using the peel and seal product in my project. Just my 2 cents. Not recommending or approving anything.
Patrick.
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kuleinc
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BUSBOSS
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| any progress busboss? |
What do you mean? That project was finished long ago.
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RatCamper
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| The only time I could smell it was during installation. |
I love this statement.
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Yes it does. It says that the only time I could smell it, was when I installed it.
14 months and counting in Hot Florida; no smell, no failure. I don't recommend anything to any one anymore, because I'm a professional. I only report what works or doesn't work for me. Your results may differ. |
I remember this thread. Curious about this statement. How hot is a Florida summer?
The short sections of that tar backed aluminium tape on my cargo floor seem to have held fine through ten or eleven summers, but they have gravity on their side and it's just small sections to temporarily  cover holes left by the camper fitout removal. I realise teh stuff talked about here is somewhat different but I'm curious about the effect on heat cycling in temperature extremes.
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BUSBOSS
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Like many others, I've been researching facts on asphalt in the hopes that the peel and seal product can be used as a reliable, low cost alternative to high end sound deadeners. I came across the following article in that research: http://www.scribd.com/doc/15253706/Asphalt-Fumes
Quote "An example of this type of heating is the
heating process associated with road paving."
The article is a pretty good read if you are concerned. My take away from it is that asphalt fumes are dangerous, but are only generated when the product reaches 200+ degrees Farenheit, which won't happen in my application. I will be using the peel and seal product in my project. Just my 2 cents. Not recommending or approving anything.
Patrick. |
Would love to read your article but it is inaccessible. I'd like to read it if you have a fix for the link.
My intial reaction is to note that fumes from heating are different than passive off-gassing.
PM if you can fix the article. Thanks!
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chabanais
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Weight is the enemy of a car... why use asphalt?
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