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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:41 am    Post subject: bentley Reply with quote

i cant take it anymore
Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

We the people of thesamba.com
need to start a index thread for the bentley

im tired of having to thumb threw 2-3chapters
to find the info

how possible is it to start a bentley index
in the archives (kind of like the dictionary)

everyone here can summit keywords with page number(s)
then a copy can be printed & placed in the book

or am i the only one who feels this way Anxious

ps, is info on the decel valve in the eng chapter or fuel injection chapter
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: bentley Reply with quote

vw76westy wrote:
or am i the only one who feels this way


Bingo. I've never found the Bentley all that difficult to navigate. There is an index at the beginning of each chapter telling you what page in that chapter you can find certain information.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I trust you have been here?

http://www.ratwell.com/technical/BentleyIndex.html
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raul-

Good idea. I'll start the first entry.

engine- Chapter 5-ENGINE

Seriously, somewhere someone does have an index. Maybe Ratwell?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:57 am    Post subject: Re: bentley Reply with quote

vw76westy wrote:
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ps, is info on the decel valve in the eng chapter or fuel injection chapter


Chapter 10 Page 24 please
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.ratwell.com/technical/BentleyIndex.html

Beat me to it!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I trust you have been here?

http://www.ratwell.com/technical/BentleyIndex.html


i had not been here before, thanks

& thank you ratwell for your contributions to the baywindow community


But that still does not change my attitude
to wanting a detailed index!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've found the Bentley to be rather haphazardly organized. It may have a discussion of topic X for some years here and for other years somewhere else. Quite a pain, really, but I've got lots of notes in mine about cross-indexing.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've found the Bentley to be rather haphazardly organized


this is the point
i dont know how many times the chap index says pg xxx
then when you go to that page there is a note refer to yyyy in chap xx
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would be nice, really, is if the Bentley were available in electronic form, like as a PDF document. That way you could search the whole book by keyword and easily find every instance of, say, "decel valve".

But they probably don't want to do that as it would make it too easy to "share".
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read this book instead.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hahahahahaa

If it was in PDF 1 person would buy it, and everyone would have it.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pdf idea sounds great.

I am used to the indexes of many books I read and feel confused when it is not there or not comprehensive.

Yeah, it doesn't take much to thumb through and find what you are looking for (especially as one become more accustomed to the book) but, when you are mid-way through a job and need to find something...it can be frustrating. Especially, when you are sweaty and already quite frustrated! Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I printed up the Ratwell index thing (that we put together a few years ago on the Samba) and keep it in my "3 ring bus binder".

I have other stuff in there on how to test the various FI components or how to remove the engine along with other stuff that might be handy to have when you are a long way from a computer and you (or someone else) has to fix something.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Randy in Maine wrote:
I printed up the Ratwell index thing (that we put together a few years ago on the Samba) and keep it in my "3 ring bus binder".

I have other stuff in there on how to test the various FI components or how to remove the engine along with other stuff that might be handy to have when you are a long way from a computer and you (or someone else) has to fix something.

I've started one of those too (the 3-ring bus binder). I'd say so far about two thirds of what I have compiled has been cut and pasted from your posts Randy!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone sent me a PM about just what kind of stuff I keep in my 3 ring bus binder. I figure even if I cannot fix the problem, a "real" mechanic with some information can usually figure out the problem. It might get you going if you are stuck in the middle of nowhere and need to get going.

This is what I have in there which is sort of specific to my 79 bus with FI. Of course if your bus is set up differently with carbs or with a type 1 engine, yours will be a little different....

A wiring diagram all in color and laminated from the local print shop...

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/wiring/baybus_79.jpg

http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/schem/2fi.gif

http://www.vintagebus.com/wiring/bus-79-westy.jpg

These things from www.ratwell.com....(ratwell is a fanatic at documenting all sort of bus stuff and is a computer wizboy over at Apple).

http://www.ratwell.com/technical/VacuumHoses.html

http://www.ratwell.com/technical/FuelHoses.html

http://www.ratwell.com/technical/EngineRemoval.html

http://www.ratwell.com/technical/LimpingHome.html

This from Colin (who really is a "Bus Guru")

http://itinerant-air-cooled.com/viewtopic.php?t=54...highlight=

http://www.itinerant-air-cooled.com/viewtopic.php?t=213

And this from "bartnik" who has been very helpful over the years.....

http://www.type2.com/bartnik/cvjoints.htm

and this handy little FI troubleshooting guide....

http://manuals.type4.org/ljet/

I always have the bentely manual with me as well as the index.

Anyway that is what I have in there.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks yet again Randy! Applause
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hiwaycallin wrote:
What would be nice, really, is if the Bentley were available in electronic form, like as a PDF document. That way you could search the whole book by keyword and easily find every instance of, say, "decel valve".

But they probably don't want to do that as it would make it too easy to "share".


Not pdf, but search-able and on your computer. Go here:

http://www.bentleypublishers.com/vw/transporter/1968-1979/

(Second item down)
Volkswagen Type 1, 2, 3, 4 1969-1979
Repair Manual Download
including Type 181 (Thing)

$ 109.95, for all VWs 1969 - 1979
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

$110 bucks just screams "GET A 3 RING BINDER". I like the binder idea. I even have and extra Bently that came with one of our buses. Now I have one for the road and one for home.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not pdf, but search-able and on your computer. Go here:

http://www.bentleypublishers.com/vw/transporter/1968-1979/

(Second item down)
Volkswagen Type 1, 2, 3, 4 1969-1979
Repair Manual Download
including Type 181 (Thing)

$ 109.95, for all VWs 1969 - 1979

hmmmm, I wonder if the contents are exactly the same as the paper "Bentley" repair manuals or if this "eBahn" repair manual is something different. Sounds great if they're simply talking about an electronic version of all the authentic Bentley manuals.

Too bad they don't sell them individually as most people wouldn't need all 10 manuals. But I guess that's how some companies are approaching the sale of electronic versions of stuff previously available only as hardcopy. I once tried to get an old back issue of a particular magazine. They would not sell me just the one issue but they offered a DVD archive of 10 years worth of issues for $200. Looks like it might be the same sort of thing here.
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