Engine Tin

Just Jake · Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:51 pm Post subject: Engine Tin

My PO decided it would be a good idea to remove all of the engine tin.

¤How do I go about putting it back in place so I can keep my engine cooled down?

The mechanic wants to do an engine drop to put it all back in place. Right now would be the best time to do an engine drop, and get down and dirty, replace the clutch, rear main etc... but....

¤Is this necessary? If not how can I put the tin back in? Is there a tutorial somewhere that I don't know about?
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73kombi · Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:55 pm Post subject:

What type of engine?

Yes, Virginia, you need all that tin.

If it's all gone, then you have to pull the engine.

Rusty O'Toole · Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:13 pm Post subject:

If all the tin is off this would be an excellent time to drop the motor and replace the seals.

Just Jake · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:54 am Post subject:

so other than, yes the tin needs to go in, and yeah an engine drop sounds like a good idea Rolling Eyes

is it still possible to put the tin back in without dropping the engine?
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Jody '71 · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:06 am Post subject:

Well, on type 1 upright engines, the engine should be removed if you're missing the front tin piece that meets up against the engine compartment where the engine and transmission join. That all important piece mates up with the fanshroud and associated other tinwork, like your cylinder tin covers and the lower plates underneath that are bolted to the heater boxes. You don't mention what type of engine this is, and if type 1, whether you have a single or dual port engine. The type 4 engine guys might offer some suggestions based on what year you have, but it would help if you showed the membership some pics of what the engine looks like right now.
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Just Jake · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:13 pm Post subject:

right right... type 4 78 westy stock fi ge engine code.
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ned · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:15 pm Post subject:

I think maybe you were looking for YES the engine out is the way to do it.
It would be faster too.

Kirwin · Samba Member Joined: April 08, 2005 Posts: 415

I believe this is all the tin you will need.

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Just Jake · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:48 pm Post subject:

anywhere i can find a tutorial for tin placement? i didnt take it out and i have very little idea of where to put it back.
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youtree · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:52 pm Post subject:

seems entirely possible to put on the tin with the engine in. The hard part will be the screws under body near transmission and then figuring out which tin goes on top of the other then unscrewing them to fit the flapper boxes then screwing them back on. Expect some scraped knuckles. But all of that tin is nothing with out engine seal. Hopefully you are not running it with out the tin that goes of plugs and fan shroud.

Tom Wilson's book has a plan. I think. It is fun without one if you like puzzles.
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vw76westy · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:56 pm Post subject:

if ALL the tin is gone then you need to drop engine

i dont think you could install the small piece
that goes under oil cooler without removing shroud

the heads need to be removed to install the 2 pieces that go under
push rod tubes, so not only drop the eng but tear it down also

the 2 large tins can be installed with engine in place
if you knew where each screw went this would be a bitch
so if your asking for a tutorial, then not possible with eng in

the rest of tin would not be a problem installing with engine in

MOX · Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:52 am Post subject:

mine had home made tin under the engine cover the push rod tubes but they have since rotted away and i cam accross a full set of tin but don't know what goes where!?!?!?
so i will watch closley and post if i find anything.

ddwbeagles · Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:56 am Post subject: Bump

Bumping old topic up for another question. Other than the junk yards, ebay or the classifieds here, are there any vendors out there selling new (OG or high quality aftermarket) type 2/4 engine tin pieces? I too was thinking of fabbing the two piece directly under the push rod tubes. Although I would probably butcher the job, we have a decent fab shop at work with some experienced operators. Thought about using aluminum or even stainless. But would rather keep it stock and just clean/powder coat decent OEM replacements.
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