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CookieMonster35 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:05 am Post subject: Cornerstone VW's? |
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I would like to know what everyone is talking about when they refer to he 'Cornerstone' VW's?
I have a feeling they were from a parade, but does anyone care to explain it better?
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jshaddvw Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2007 Posts: 265 Location: Lancaster Ohio
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:44 am Post subject: |
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the ceremony in which they laid the cornerstone for the factory to build the first cars.
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Hacksaw-BoB Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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I wrote an article about the 1938 Cornerstone Ceremony in the July 2009 issue of Hot VWs magazine.
Check It Out _________________ Hacksaw BoB
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Hacksaw-BoB Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:06 am Post subject: |
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BTW, I scanned the 1938 Cornerstone Ceremony article. Send me a PM and I can e-mail you a copy of the article _________________ Hacksaw BoB
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fourboxers Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:22 am Post subject: |
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They are refering to the prototypes that were present during the ceremony.
1 sedan and 1 cabriolet. _________________ - 1960 Volkswagen Beetle
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kdf38 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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plus one car with a roll back sunroof.
fourboxers wrote: |
They are refering to the prototypes that were present during the ceremony.
1 sedan and 1 cabriolet. |
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billmetric Samba Member
Joined: March 16, 2006 Posts: 1062 Location: Columbus City USA
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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all 3 in living colour:
2 in black, 1 in grey ! _________________ There is an idea of a Billmetric; some kind of abstraction. But there is no real me: only an entity, something illusory. And though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable... I simply am not there... |
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Hacksaw-BoB Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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Actually the VW Convertible was a very dark red color . . . . _________________ Hacksaw BoB
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Ninamashr Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:03 am Post subject: |
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Hacksaw-BoB wrote: |
Actually the VW Convertible was a very dark red color . . . . |
Are you sure about that? The highlights on the vert and the sedan look identical. _________________ 1957 Karmann Kabriolet "Franky"
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Hacksaw-BoB Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:06 am Post subject: |
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I agree that the Cabrio looks black and perhaps the colors of the photo are off as this was an introduction of Kodak Kodachrome color film of the time.
It has been documented many years ago with information from newspapers and attendees reporting the event of the KdF Cornerstone cars and their colors. _________________ Hacksaw BoB
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kdf38 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Time for someone to dig up an original story on the event!
Mike
Hacksaw-BoB wrote: |
I agree that the Cabrio looks black and perhaps the colors of the photo are off as this was an introduction of Kodak Kodachrome color film of the time.
It has been documented many years ago with information from newspapers and attendees reporting the event of the KdF Cornerstone cars and their colors. |
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Undis Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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From an aesthetics point of view it would make sense to have all three cars the same color -OR- to have each of them a different color. Having two black and one dark grey just doesn't look right unless they were trying to make a point that the grey car is the "base model" and the other two are more luxurious being a sunroof and a full convertible.
Looking at the photos it really looks like the sunroof and the vert are black, but it would be great to see refference of the vert being dark red. _________________ Check out my Facebook page: Volkswagen Prototypes. |
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Bruce Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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Hacksaw-BoB wrote: |
.... perhaps the colors of the photo are off as this was an introduction of Kodak Kodachrome color film of the time. |
Looking at the pic above, the film had no trouble reproducing red.
Sorry, but you're gonna have to do a lot more than just saying it's a red car. _________________
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kdf38 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:34 am Post subject: |
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My Burgundy car looks black when it is dark or cloudy, but that's well lit. It looks like the Vert could be Black and the sunroof car Dark Blue as a guess.
Mike
Bruce wrote: |
Hacksaw-BoB wrote: |
.... perhaps the colors of the photo are off as this was an introduction of Kodak Kodachrome color film of the time. |
Looking at the pic above, the film had no trouble reproducing red.
Sorry, but you're gonna have to do a lot more than just saying it's a red car. |
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GeoffP Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:38 am Post subject: |
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On my screen the sunroof looks to be a VERY dark red or burgandy. With it beside the vert it looks like a trick on the eye by appearing black.
I always thought it was black? Any other proof it's red? |
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Patty B. Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:58 am Post subject: |
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There are some big ass red flags reflecting everywhere in that pic. |
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Undis Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:38 am Post subject: |
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Yes, but those flags are bright red cloth. Here we are talking about a possible dark burgundy, highly polished paint finish. And those pictures are 70 years old!
Although both cars look black to me, you never know, I mean, we have been dissecting these old cars for most of this year, and a few surprises have come along - some great info has surfaced. _________________ Check out my Facebook page: Volkswagen Prototypes. |
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Hacksaw-BoB Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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The colors of the old Kodachrome film appear to be off. The green plants and trees are too dark. What about the guy standing in back of the Cabrio wearing black. That black suit makes the Cabrio look like a very dark burgundy (red) _________________ Hacksaw BoB
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53 0val Samba Professor
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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VW did not even know what color to paint the factory's prototype re-creations. Everyone who was alive at the time, and who had worked on the actual cars...................... forgot. _________________ "What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." Dobee, Dobee, Do |
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Ninamashr Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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Hacksaw-BoB wrote: |
The colors of the old Kodachrome film appear to be off. The green plants and trees are too dark. What about the guy standing in back of the Cabrio wearing black. That black suit makes the Cabrio look like a very dark burgundy (red) |
I can see your point, but, the problem is that the sedan looks like the exact same color as the vert. So either they were both black or both deep red?! _________________ 1957 Karmann Kabriolet "Franky"
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