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otis_bartleh Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2009 Posts: 1106 Location: Burlington, WA
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:14 am Post subject: |
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Does this look like it is able to be saved? I picked up the rebuild kit from WW, just need to try and figure the best way to clean this, if it is even worth it.
The tubes look pretty bad, and the gas that was in the tank got all gummed up, the bus sat for ~20 years. The valve movement is kind of tough, but I think the rebuild kit will fix that as I can move the valve by hand without much force...
_________________ -Adam
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Major Woody Samba Enigma
Joined: December 04, 2002 Posts: 9010 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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That can definitely be saved. Remove the lever, the retaining pin, and the guts, Clean everything and smooth out the contact surfaces. Remove the reserve tube and drill out the other one for a replacement. Press in new pickup tube, reinstall lever and reinstall into bus.
Or sell that one to me for a few bucks and get brand new one depending on what your time is worth. |
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otis_bartleh Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2009 Posts: 1106 Location: Burlington, WA
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Major Woody wrote: |
That can definitely be saved. Remove the lever, the retaining pin, and the guts, Clean everything and smooth out the contact surfaces. Remove the reserve tube and drill out the other one for a replacement. Press in new pickup tube, reinstall lever and reinstall into bus.
Or sell that one to me for a few bucks and get brand new one depending on what your time is worth. |
Cool, thanks, was hoping it'd be fine. I'd rather try and rebuild this one than buy a new one. Really wasn't sure if I should try and clean the tubes or go all out and replace them, but replacing them seems the right thing to do. This thread has some great info and great pics, thanks to everyone! _________________ -Adam
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technik Samba Member
Joined: September 03, 2005 Posts: 379 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:55 am Post subject: |
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great thread!
I removed the retaining clip but I cant pull off the cap! I've tried everything.
I think I may have pierced it too
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24764 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:14 am Post subject: |
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Does the selector move/rotate inside the switch body? _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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technik Samba Member
Joined: September 03, 2005 Posts: 379 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:07 am Post subject: |
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Yes it moves |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24764 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:16 am Post subject: |
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Have you tried a bit of oil in there and twist/pull it? _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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eeclark Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2005 Posts: 257 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:07 pm Post subject: Empty gas tank first? |
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I know some of you experienced guys might scoff, but I have to ask...should the gas tank be empty when I go to remove this from the car?
I am thinking it should be but I did not see anyone mention it.
Thanks _________________ Ed
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24764 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: Empty gas tank first? |
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eeclark wrote: |
I know some of you experienced guys might scoff, but I have to ask...should the gas tank be empty when I go to remove this from the car? |
Best if empty. Fuel does weight down a tank so the more in there the more problem it is to pull out. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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eeclark Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2005 Posts: 257 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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So a follow up question then is are you saying the whole tank has to be removed to remove the reserve valve? _________________ Ed
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24764 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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eeclark wrote: |
So a follow up question then is are you saying the whole tank has to be removed to remove the reserve valve? |
It can be done in the VW, with passenger side wheel removed, but not easily. Assuming the reserve tap is not corroded into place, if it is corroded then it can be impossible.... _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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eeclark Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks _________________ Ed
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John O'Sullivan Samba Member
Joined: January 05, 2005 Posts: 2
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:28 am Post subject: |
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Hi
Can you tell me if the reserve valve is just screwed metal to metal when screwing it into the tank ?
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:13 am Post subject: |
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Check the exploded diagram on page 3. While there is metal to metal contact, there is also gaskets, fuel filter sock in there... _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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Schwing Samba Member
Joined: May 10, 2009 Posts: 2506 Location: Centreville, MD
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panicman Samba Member
Joined: December 18, 2011 Posts: 2290 Location: Canby, OR
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:12 am Post subject: |
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I just lived through 'leaky reserve tap' hell. I got great advice to thread the tap to the tank this way:
1. Clean everything religiously; threading the 3 parts together must be perfectly smooth, not rough and grabby. You should have a very clean a.)tap, b.) threaded collar, & c.) gas tank threaded orifice.
2. Tank out is easiest- hold the rh/lh threaded collar over the tank orifice, and hold the tap over it, oriented correctly from the start.
3. Gently mate the peices, rotating ONLY the collar with your fingers. Hand tighten to solid, then a final tighten with a wrench.
4. I then bench tested the joint by pouring gas into the tank, and watching it for 4 hours. No leaks, I went ahead and installed.
If you don't do it as described, you will likely have a fuel leak. I applied white lithium to the threads. You shouldn't use plumbers tape, epoxy, or anything else, it should really be a metal to metal thread, with lube of some kind only if you prefer it.
Here is a link to my troubles:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=567185&highlight=reserve+tap
And a picture:
I hope this helps! _________________ Plate of shrimp
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Schwing Samba Member
Joined: May 10, 2009 Posts: 2506 Location: Centreville, MD
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:15 am Post subject: |
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panicman wrote: |
I just lived through 'leaky reserve tap' hell. I got great advice to thread the tap to the tank this way:
1. Clean everything religiously; threading the 3 parts together must be perfectly smooth, not rough and grabby. You should have a very clean a.)tap, b.) threaded collar, & c.) gas tank threaded orifice.
2. Tank out is easiest- hold the rh/lh threaded collar over the tank orifice, and hold the tap over it, oriented correctly from the start.
3. Gently mate the peices, rotating ONLY the collar with your fingers. Hand tighten to solid, then a final tighten with a wrench.
4. I then bench tested the joint by pouring gas into the tank, and watching it for 4 hours. No leaks, I went ahead and installed.
If you don't do it as described, you will likely have a fuel leak. I applied white lithium to the threads. You shouldn't use plumbers tape, epoxy, or anything else, it should really be a metal to metal thread, with lube of some kind only if you prefer it.
Here is a link to my troubles:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=567185&highlight=reserve+tap
I hope this helps! |
By the way that's great advice. I did the same thing and installed my reserve, added fuel and let the tank rest on a dry 5 gallon bucket. Next morning no fuel in the bucket so I knew I could install. _________________ Shadetree Westy
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=657279&highlight=
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beth percola Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2011 Posts: 12 Location: socal
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Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:45 pm Post subject: CANT get the retaining clip to go back on |
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what a bitch
i have the tap in a vise and I have tryed a deep socket to help getting the c clip in...I have tryed a couple different ways but it keeps popping out any great ideas ?? |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24764 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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Have you made sure the slot for the clip is clean of debris and not damaged? _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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akomjathy Samba Member
Joined: October 15, 2004 Posts: 208
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Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:40 pm Post subject: fuel tap seal hard or soft? |
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Anybody has an idea, if a NOS fuel tap seal should be hard or soft?? I bought some NOS fuel tap seals and I received some seals as hard as a stone. When I wanted to replace it in my original fuel tap (which is sitting on the shelf for more than 10 years) I realized that the original fuel tap seal is still soft.
Thanks for your help! |
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