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allihjelm
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 Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:01 am Post subject: Carb and brake master cylinder for my Euro 67 |
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Hi,
Can you help me identifying the carburetor and brake master cylinder in my 6V Euro 1300 Beetle:
There are two versions of this carburator I believe:
30 PICT-1 VW45-1 for '66 1300 (w/o return spring; w/o power fuel circuit)
30 PICT-1 VW75-1 for '66 1300 (with return spring; w/o power fuel circuit)
Thanks.
- Al
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allihjelm
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I believe that these are the two master cylinders to choose between:
BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER, 1967-1977 Bug
BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER, 1965-1966 Bug
Can you help me identifying which one I need for my 67?
Is the German master cylinder worth the double price difference over the Brazilian one?
Thanks.
-Al
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KTPhil 
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| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Your first photo shows a single master. Most '67s came with the dual master. You can retrofit the dual with modified hard lines and a reservior which is NLA. |
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| His being a Euro spec 67 may account for the single circuit master.... and that's a 30 pict-1 carb allright... it will either have the number on the back of the bowl or on the "flange" down by the stud and the throttle arm LH side |
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allihjelm
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How do I know if the carb is VW45 or VW75?
Much quality difference between the German and Brazilian Master brake cylinder?
-Al
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keifernet
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| allihjelm wrote: |
How do I know if the carb is VW45 or VW75?
Much quality difference between the German and Brazilian Master brake cylinder?
-Al |
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| His being a Euro spec 67 may account for the single circuit master.... and that's a 30 pict-1 carb allright... it will either have the number on the back of the bowl or on the "flange" down by the stud and the throttle arm LH side |
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allihjelm
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| allihjelm wrote: |
How do I know if the carb is VW45 or VW75?
Much quality difference between the German and Brazilian Master brake cylinder?
-Al |
| keifernet wrote: |
| His being a Euro spec 67 may account for the single circuit master.... and that's a 30 pict-1 carb allright... it will either have the number on the back of the bowl or on the "flange" down by the stud and the throttle arm LH side |
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Ok. Found it. It's a VW75. 
Thank you for your help!
-Al
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allihjelm
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Is there a big difference between the VW45 and VW75 carbs?
I know one here that may owns a VW45 carb (from af '63 1200 Beetle). Will it fit my '67 1300 Beetle?
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- Al
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allihjelm
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| allihjelm wrote: |
Is there a big difference between the VW45 and VW75 carbs?
I know one here that may owns a VW45 carb (from af '63 1200 Beetle). Will it fit my '67 1300 Beetle?
Thanks.
- Al |
Can anyone here enlighten me on this one? Are the VW45 and VW75 interchangeable?
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| allihjelm wrote: |
Is there a big difference between the VW45 and VW75 carbs?
I know one here that may owns a VW45 carb (from af '63 1200 Beetle). Will it fit my '67 1300 Beetle?
Thanks.
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Can anyone here enlighten me on this one? Are the VW45 and VW75 interchangeable? |
Here is a quote from Andy ( glutamodo) from this thread.
Check the specs in the chart he posted.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=355820
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As far as I know, the advance drillings are about the same on all the German 30PICT-1 carbs. Except for the ones used with those optional desert-service dual cyclone air filters, I've read that the 28PICT-1 they used in that application had different plumbing for the advance drillings and no upper fitting as well as a power fuel system without a check ball in place. The 30 series, I think did have the upper advance drilling but a power fuel system without a check ball in there. I've never seen either but the base flange number for those was VW58-1, which I'm guessing was before they added the return spring to the carb. I've not come across if they made one for the late type return spring but I'd venture to guess they did. I've only come across so much info on these. I have no idea the rhyme or reason they assigned the modification state (base flange) numbers. There are tons of "gaps" between the numbers I know of.
I did find a mention that they stopped using a special carb with dual air cleaners on the 1500 though.
Many 1300 carbs came with no power fuel system, but a larger main jet to compensate. 1966 Ghia models had it though, although it seems they offset the larger availability of fuel with a larger air correction jet. Then after they changed to the 1500, they all had the power fuel system, but unlike the 28-series, the 30s don't have a check ball inside the carb. Since they have the high speed enrichment though, they didn't need as large of a main jet. The jetting is a function of that plus the car it was used in.
Below, I just put in the Gallery a chart of all the 30-series carb info I do have.
And also, you may or may not have the "plumbing" in the bottom half of the carb for the power fuel system. Here's one I found that did have it, and it had NO base flange number either - the top of this carb did not have the power fuel system, yet the bottom half of it did! (of course, these parts might have been mixed/matched over the years)
-Andy
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