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Volkswache
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 Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:55 pm Post subject: Help Identify Very Early Chassis |
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That is the place where we found it. You can only see the shifter 
You can shift with it and that after years in ground
Thats the reinforcements under front seats:
Anybody know for what this switch is:
Any diference in shifter?
Anybody knows for what this is?
We take a look and after sandblasting the chassis is useable |
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Simon uk
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| cool, are there any pics after it was cleaned up? |
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Volkswache
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Sorry, not yet.
We want clean it and give them to sandblaster. |
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roy63
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Holy dirty pan Bat Man, blasting may not be the best for your pan, it may blast it all away? You may want to try Electrolis (sp).
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splitjunkie
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if it is not usable after blasting it won't make any difference if you use blasting or electrolysis. If there is not enough metal there it won't matter either way.
Based on the two round drain plugs on the pan it looks like you have a Klubelwagen pan there.
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spookymulder
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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neat find, did you use a metal detector?  |
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LeviMan2001
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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| spookymulder wrote: |
| neat find, did you use a metal detector? |
Would that hulk of rust even set off a detector  ?
Seriously though, very cool, especially if its a kubel.
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kdf38
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I don't see any pics of drain plugs. Are there more pics?
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if it is not usable after blasting it won't make any difference if you use blasting or electrolysis. If there is not enough metal there it won't matter either way.
Based on the two round drain plugs on the pan it looks like you have a Klubelwagen pan there. |
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type 87
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Shows an early 50's tranny nose cone mount....
"KOOL" find....
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drscope
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How come that pan buried in the dirt lasted longer then most of my cars above ground?
Maybe I'm washing them too much.
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Was that thing at the bottom of Pearl Harbor next to the Arizona? Geez oh man...
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eurodub
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it was buried in the home country's land... the soil was protective with the pan...
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ProjectX
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Looks kind of like QWERTY's 46 chassis. His is in a little better shape
If you look at the 2 center support straps they match the details on the bottom of the pan pictures from above.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:47 am Post subject: |
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Looks to be Kubelwagen floorpan
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peter schepens
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| Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:16 am Post subject: |
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Nice artifact from the past.
The switch could be a revers light switch that workt over a lever that was attached to the shift rod.
I have seen a simular setup. It is for sure aftermarket.
I think the early beetles used the same floor as the kubel, sure the ones made before 47.
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splitjunkie
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I was wrong about the drain plugs. They would be at the very front of the pans as you can see in the picture of the overturned Klubel. But most definitely a very early pan.
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drscope
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Whats the deal with the bottom of the shock towers? Is that the shock mount below the lower tube?
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Patty B.
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Soak that thing in a huge pan of STONG tea----the tannic acid will stop the rusting and the chunks of rust will fall off leaving just dark metal. Look it up on the net. It'll take a while but may be less destructive than blasting! This is what we did in a museum for such metal as 200 yr old axe heads found in mud for preservation.
How did you happen across this find?????????????
 Such exciting times in the VW world!!!!!! |
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