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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

16x7 ET23 5x112:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&...rid=229466
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd ask to see a picture of the bolt holes from the inside before I pulled the trigger. Why? Last year i bought a second set of Ronal R28 rims, so I'd have a spare to mount on my new tire carrier, plus some back up in case I hit a curb. It turned out one of the wheels had been bored out and re-bushed for some other lug spacing. Totally blind sided me, never would have thought of it. The guy did make good on it, but it was a hassle.
Those wheels are probably fine, but it wouldn't hurt to ask for another view.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joetiger wrote:
16x7 ET23 5x112:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&...rid=229466

Wow 7s and 8s for a Vanagon.

Be careful there are two different sizes auctioned there.......

7x16 ET23
8x16 ET11
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

r39o wrote:

Wow 7s and 8s for a Vanagon.

Be careful there are two different sizes auctioned there.......

7x16 ET23
8x16 ET11


Whoa I didn't notice that...I see R9's and get little Ronal R9 stars in my eyes.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isn't that as good as it gets for an R9 ?

I mean ET23 is about 1/4" of poke on the front and ET 11 for the rear is ok too. maybe less with a 7" maybe only 1/8" of poke.

plus they are staggered 16" so that is a huge plus as far as an R9 goes.

is there an R9 made with a closer ET to "perfect" 30 ?


check the chart. it's not 100% reliable, but close.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a set of 15x7's with et of 35, not mounted yet, but per t3 they will work with spacers
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="r39o"]
joetiger wrote:
16x7 ET23 5x112:
8x16 ET11


No bueno for your folks with sliding doors. Sad

Great or 2wd Dokas or Singlecabs.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had these wheels on my van. With the tires I had on it, it was ridiculously burly, but I wasn't ready to put a zombie plow on the front end so I switched to a less surly looking wheel. It's already black on black, so I feel like anything to make it look friendlier helps. The Pentas also wouldn't fit the big brakes kit.

As for spray, I didn't notice a lot of spray on the sides with ET23, but the new wheels/spacers with ET 25 225/70R16 tires do spray the sides, not sure why, but I don't really care. I'm neurotic about the car wash anyway. Maybe the tire pattern??

Anyway, my penta's are up for sale with tires if anyone wants them.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, forgot to mention. The side door slid on the tire sometimes, but it wasn't enough that I was ever concerned about it.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The splash and slight sliding door rub was likely due to your tire choice. The extra poke from the 7" wheel at ET23 should be minimal. Your 15x7 ET23 5x112mm wheels per your ad should be perfect specs a Vanagoner who wants R9's. Good luck on the sale.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so is
bolt pattern is 5x4.75
the same as 112?

i have a chance to get 4 16x8 ronal 9s
they need totally repowdercoated.
but they only want 80 bux
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

minsk wrote:
so is
bolt pattern is 5x4.75
the same as 112?

i have a chance to get 4 16x8 ronal 9s
they need totally repowdercoated.
but they only want 80 bux


No, 4,75 inches are 120,65mm.

My Guess is that they are in fact metric, as 120mm is a common BMW bolt pattern.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

minsk wrote:
so is
bolt pattern is 5x4.75
the same as 112?

i have a chance to get 4 16x8 ronal 9s
they need totally repowdercoated.
but they only want 80 bux


4.75 is not 112 and yes, ask for pictures of the mounting areas, many screw these rims up trying to mount them to different vehicles.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

minsk wrote:
so is
bolt pattern is 5x4.75
the same as 112?

i have a chance to get 4 16x8 ronal 9s
they need totally repowdercoated.
but they only want 80 bux


It's 25.4 mm = 1 inch

Using those figures 4.75" x 25.4 = 120.65mm as others have pointed out. The R9's were popular with the BMW crowd. Happens to be a Chevy bolt pattern as well. Unfortunately, they typically have very low offsets (ET) which makes them difficult to adapt to Vanagons even with adapters.

If the offset is close to the ideal ET30, it might be worth having redrilled to the correct bolt pattern.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right on BenT.
I have seen Mustangs and Camaros with R9s that were not redrilled.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, all 16x8 and 16x9 Ronal R9s have a low offset - ET11 for the 8s and ET13 for the 9s. Ronal used the same basic wheel casting for these wheels and drilled them for 5x112, 5x114.3, 5x120, and 5x130. That's why they have such big lug nut bores. The only 16" R9 that is really Vanagon friendly is the 16x7, which has a 23mm offset.

There was a second generation R9 that was made for the Mercedes 190 and 300E with a much higher offset. Those wheels only came in 7" widths and have a 35mm offset. Those ones don't look as good, though, but with a minimal 5mm spacer, the fit would be just about perfect.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It only took 3 1/2 years, but I finally found a spare!!

Came up on Ebay this morning for cheap. 15x7 ET23, 5x112 just like my others. It's not powdercoated like my set, but I'm okay with that. It will spend most of its life under the front until I get a wild hair and decide to restore all five.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just recently purchased two separate sets of five in that size and spec.
One set mint, the other all used but in good condition.
The second set can be used or sold as individual spares.
Not looking to dump any of them, just responding to the previous post saying it took 3 1/2 years to find one.
I probably paid more per rim than some, but I really like these R9s Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

insyncro wrote:

Not looking to dump any of them, just responding to the previous post saying it took 3 1/2 years to find one.
I probably paid more per rim than some, but I really like these R9s Wink


I've been able to find several over the years, but they've either been the wrong size/offset/bolt pattern, or they've been very expensive.

(There's that cheap Vanagon owner thing again.) Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For what I consider "mint" R9s I pay ~$175 per rim.
Less than $100 each if not mint, dinged, out of round, wheel weight marks on outer face....and especially if they have multiple layers of paint on them, but that turns out to be a good thing once striped and prepped for powder Wink

I have the 15" and 16" versions that fit perfectly on a Syncro.
They look great!
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