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regis101 Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2005 Posts: 2078 Location: Livermore, Ca
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:01 pm Post subject: Three window canvas |
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Greetings. I've read lots of postings here about the pop top canvas. It does seem that most of the available canvas has three windows. Does anyone have good or bad input about them .
My concern would be the side windows and how easy it is to fold it in while lowering the top. Seems like there would be extra everything at the very place that I need to fold up without problems. maybe after a few times it gets comfortably broken in or something.
I'm ready to buy and am partial to the single window style. But if most of the (quality) canvas' out there have three windows, enlighten me, please. _________________ Peace, Regis |
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EZ Gruv King of Plaid
Joined: December 10, 2002 Posts: 8544 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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On mine, the side screens are very tight against the canvas. It is no different than a canvas with no side windows. _________________ Eric
1977 Deluxe Westfalia - 2.0L FI Type IV, Completely Original
Photographer for HotVWs, VolksWorld, AirMighty, VW Camper & Commercial, Hayburner, and more.
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regis101 Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2005 Posts: 2078 Location: Livermore, Ca
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the reply. Trying to imagine what the extra seaming, stitching, material and the zippers would add up to for ease of lowering. _________________ Peace, Regis |
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VDubTech Samba Member
Joined: December 29, 2002 Posts: 9142 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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regis101 wrote: |
Thanks for the reply. Trying to imagine what the extra seaming, stitching, material and the zippers would add up to for ease of lowering. |
I don't understand what you're envisioning here...it's nothing at all different from one with no windows. It goes up and down exactly the same. _________________ First Trip in the RustyBus:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=279077&highlight=
borninabus wrote: |
a measurement of your rod would be extremely useful. |
notchboy wrote: |
my dad wasnt a belittling cock when he tought me how to wrench on cars. |
EverettB wrote: |
One photo = good for reference.
10 photos = douchebaggery |
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regis101 Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2005 Posts: 2078 Location: Livermore, Ca
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Does your canvas have the three windows? _________________ Peace, Regis |
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germansupplyscott Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2004 Posts: 7093 Location: toronto
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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it's really up to your preference. the three windows have zero negatives including how the canvas folds up, there is no issue at all. i like the three windows, the first thing i do when camping is pop the top and unzip all three windows. _________________ SL |
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BUSBOSS Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2009 Posts: 2161 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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The only time there is a difference with the three window canvas is if you try to close the pop top with the side window flaps open. Then you'll have extra fabric.
I have the three window and love it. _________________ All the redemption I can offer, girl, is beneath this dirty hood
1976 Westfalia
1970 Karmann Ghia Convertible (sold - but not forgotten) |
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regis101 Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2005 Posts: 2078 Location: Livermore, Ca
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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Cool. Didn't know if the screen would try to push out or something when the top is lowered to about the 2/3's position. This is usually when I start pulling the sides inward. I still give a looksie around the outside to see if it's all in when the top is down and locked. _________________ Peace, Regis |
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Romy Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2006 Posts: 169 Location: The Kerkin, NM
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Regis, you already have a 2 window canvas....if you wait a little longer, you'll get the third! _________________ -Romy
1977 Bus - ASI Riviera
1972 Bus - Westy converted to Adventurewagen (Bubbles)
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regis101 Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2005 Posts: 2078 Location: Livermore, Ca
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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It is so damn dry that I'm afraid Ray will fall out. I make him sleep on the passenger side. This is why I don't sleep well up there with him.
Amy tugged on the zipper for the front window and it started to tear the window canvas.
Damn shame that I'll have to fab up some outside safety nets for fall protection.
I don't really want to fix the "second window" unless I loosely sew it up. Any type of iron on or glue on patch will make a new weak point just past the patch. A sewn patch may work if I keep the fabric loose so as to not create any more stress points. And then, the pop top needs refurbbed anyway.
Prolly this winter _________________ Peace, Regis |
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cc79westie Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2007 Posts: 468 Location: Greenport, N.Y.
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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The side windows on the poptop make it 110% better. I like looking out of them when up there and it makes the Bus seem "bigger". _________________ 1979 Westfalia (Sage Green)
1966 Pontiac GTO
1977 Chevy Monza 5.0 V-8
1984 Datsun/Nissan 300ZX
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regis101 Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2005 Posts: 2078 Location: Livermore, Ca
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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There are many times when I wished I had side windows. Especially at night when I hear the critters getting into the beer cooler. _________________ Peace, Regis |
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VDubTech Samba Member
Joined: December 29, 2002 Posts: 9142 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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regis101 wrote: |
Does your canvas have the three windows? |
I have two '79 Campers currently, one with the OG canvas and one with a new 3 window. They're exactly the same putting the top up and down...the three windows make it just that much better. _________________ First Trip in the RustyBus:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=279077&highlight=
borninabus wrote: |
a measurement of your rod would be extremely useful. |
notchboy wrote: |
my dad wasnt a belittling cock when he tought me how to wrench on cars. |
EverettB wrote: |
One photo = good for reference.
10 photos = douchebaggery |
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whc03grady Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2004 Posts: 337 Location: Livingston Montana
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe this is too obvious, but three windows=better airflow as well.
I can't think of any reason, except for concours purposes (not an issue here, I suspect), that one window would be preferable to three. _________________ 1974 Westfalia "Ludwig"
1971 Squareback "Gertie"
Read about their adventures
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regis101 Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2005 Posts: 2078 Location: Livermore, Ca
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Nice. What three window canvas did you get? Who was the vendor?
Any good or bad thoughts about the purchase?
Never mind. I read your thread
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=349881 _________________ Peace, Regis
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whc03grady Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2004 Posts: 337 Location: Livingston Montana
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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We got ours from GoWesty. And it looks like they don't even sell them for Bays anymore--they don't make them, they just sell them. I don't remember the manufacturer. We got a canvas, not a synthetic, top and treated it with that spray sealant and have had no issues, five years in.
I don't have any bad thoughts about the purchase. Our old top was completely shot, so despite the expense it was a necessary buy. Installing it wasn't exactly fun (get a pneumatic staple gun), but that had nothing to do with who made it. _________________ 1974 Westfalia "Ludwig"
1971 Squareback "Gertie"
Read about their adventures
blankmange wrote: |
The Bentley assumes that the car is complete. |
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Kirk Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2003 Posts: 5487 Location: North Texas
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:03 am Post subject: |
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I've had and operated both. I really like the three window. It makes it much nicer, and I can't tell a difference when operating it.
_________________ MAKE FORUMS GREAT AGAIN
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regis101 Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2005 Posts: 2078 Location: Livermore, Ca
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:28 am Post subject: |
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It's reassuring to hear that the side screen(s) don't want to fold out when the top is coming down. I suppose that when the top is starting to lower, just make sure that the direction of the sides come inward as per normal with the screen following.
Now I'm on the hunt for vendors. Maybe I can find one with a smallish side window/screen. Back to the search function. Oh joy _________________ Peace, Regis |
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patayres Samba Member
Joined: March 20, 2009 Posts: 991 Location: Bend, Orygun
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:57 am Post subject: |
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GoWesty still sells the canvas. We used the hemp blend last spring when we redid ours & are very happy. The lighter colored fabric brightens up the interior very nicely and the vents are nice and big for great air flow.
http://www.gowesty.com/ec_view_details.php?id=3656&category_id=350&category_parent_id= _________________ 1975 Westfalia Helsinki - 1800 EFI w/ Pertronix
1965 Singlecab - 1600dp
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regis101 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 11:19 am Post subject: |
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Do you feel that the hemp blend has a tight enough weave? Does it seem stretchy. _________________ Peace, Regis |
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