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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: 1970 Convertible Top Replacement Reply with quote

Does anyone know if these measurements work for a 68 ghia with Center crank.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: 1970 Convertible Top Replacement Reply with quote

Thanks Nicholas re Vince, I figured what the answer would be but didn't want to assume anything, and I did note it had been around 2013-2014 when he last posted. Sad.

Braukuche, I hear you, I worked out most of the issues already with my top frame and header, for now, my header was an original that I had to do some repair work on, noted on my build thread. I've had to make a lot of adjustments and know I will have more with padding and readjusting the weather strip rubber around the frame. Sure I could pay someone to do it, but as you and many others, trying to do as much as I can. I put a top on it around 25 years ago or so and it didn't come out too bad, didn't have near the experience/knowledge I have now, so more confident in my skills...Hey I got my windshield installed in 3-5 minutes, so....
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:24 pm    Post subject: Re: 1970 Convertible Top Replacement Reply with quote

rbsurfguy wrote:

First, was there ever a resolution on what happened to Vince? The thread mentioned no one had heard from him due to to some illness, but it fell off after that.


This doesn't answer the question, but Vince last visited the Samba on September 02, 2014. You can draw your own conclusion from that given how active and well regarded his contributions have been.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:44 pm    Post subject: Re: 1970 Convertible Top Replacement Reply with quote

rbsurfguy wrote:
Since I am getting close to attempting to install my top and headliner, I've read through this whole thread, again..(ok 8th or 9th time).

First, was there ever a resolution on what happened to Vince? The thread mentioned no one had heard from him due to to some illness, but it fell off after that.

As I have done with much advice and examples of how to do things from other Samba Members, following their builds, I have printed off pages of things for my own workbook. So what I have done with this awesome Convertible Top Replacement is to cut and paste all of the pictures, instructions, and responses to questions in clarifying how to follow these step by step instructions. I took out all of the comments, questions, and kudos. I now have my Expert Convertible Top and headliner Install Workbook.

I've got this on a Word doc and can also save to pdf. If the moderators would like to post it somewhere I would be happy to send it, just tell me which address to send.
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Best of luck Jeff. I found the Achilles heel of the whole procedure are the crappy aftermarket wood headers which do not conform to the windshield frame and must be shaped to get the requisite gaps. Don’t settle for almost, there is no way to fix any unevenness in the edge of the wood.
Also, the pad must extend from the rear bow to the header and from the edge of one side to the other to get a smooth rounded top. It’s not clear when you get the pad as it looks square…
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:16 pm    Post subject: Re: 1970 Convertible Top Replacement Reply with quote

Since I am getting close to attempting to install my top and headliner, I've read through this whole thread, again..(ok 8th or 9th time).

First, was there ever a resolution on what happened to Vince? The thread mentioned no one had heard from him due to to some illness, but it fell off after that.

As I have done with much advice and examples of how to do things from other Samba Members, following their builds, I have printed off pages of things for my own workbook. So what I have done with this awesome Convertible Top Replacement is to cut and paste all of the pictures, instructions, and responses to questions in clarifying how to follow these step by step instructions. I took out all of the comments, questions, and kudos. I now have my Expert Convertible Top and headliner Install Workbook.

I've got this on a Word doc and can also save to pdf. If the moderators would like to post it somewhere I would be happy to send it, just tell me which address to send.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Volkstuning wrote:
Can anyone help with this part? Thanks
Which part?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone help with this part? Thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:05 pm    Post subject: Re: 1970 Convertible Top Replacement Reply with quote

Thanks to all that contributed to this forum.
I cannot believe the how this will help me.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:29 am    Post subject: Re: 1970 Convertible Top Replacement Reply with quote

Interesting...I notice he has the wooden bows as well.
The prices aren't super crazy either, for a European supply.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:52 am    Post subject: Re: 1970 Convertible Top Replacement Reply with quote

This paddind I bought at a German supplier. Maybe you can buy this here appart.

https://cabrio.de/de/

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:49 am    Post subject: Re: 1970 Convertible Top Replacement Reply with quote

Bleyseng wrote:
Who or what is Rugier Huber? Have a link?

He is a German supplier
https://www.vintagecarparts.de/
But his shop has been closed since April.
Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:42 am    Post subject: Re: 1970 Convertible Top Replacement Reply with quote

Who or what is Rugier Huber? Have a link?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:45 am    Post subject: Re: 1970 Convertible Top Replacement Reply with quote

That thickness is correct. The material is coconut husk sandwiched with a modern furniture padding. It is way better that using foam that will decay in a few short years. I would prefer using 100% husk but that might be difficult to find. I know Rugier Huber did stock it, but I've not seen any other supplier. Maybe if you know a furniture restorer that might provide a clue of where to get that stuff.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:32 am    Post subject: Re: 1970 Convertible Top Replacement Reply with quote

Padding in 3 parts with in the middle horsehair(coconut)
Does anyone have experience with this?, what is the top.
Total thickness is 4 cm is this normal?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:42 pm    Post subject: Re: 1970 Convertible Top Replacement Reply with quote

Brisyb wrote:
Hi Ghiaaddict, do you happen to have a softcopy, or know where I can get, of the Convertible Top, Model 14 manual you show in your post.

I have a 1971 model and am rebuilding the top so correct measurements etc. are needed.


I think I got my copy when I ordered a new top from Chuck's. It came with it.

However I did not find it to be much help. The pretty much just followed the instructions and videos here on the forum.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:15 am    Post subject: Re: 1970 Convertible Top Replacement Reply with quote

Brisyb wrote:
Hi Ghiaaddict, do you happen to have a softcopy, or know where I can get, of the Convertible Top, Model 14 manual you show in your post.

I have a 1971 model and am rebuilding the top so correct measurements etc. are needed.


Ghiaaddict (Vince) hasn't been on here since 2014. I've called him several times and received no answer and no way to leave a message.

Not sure what has happened to him. If anyone has any info on his well being please let us know.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:52 pm    Post subject: Re: 1970 Convertible Top Replacement Reply with quote

Hi Ghiaaddict, do you happen to have a softcopy, or know where I can get, of the Convertible Top, Model 14 manual you show in your post.

I have a 1971 model and am rebuilding the top so correct measurements etc. are needed.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:25 am    Post subject: Re: 1970 Convertible Top Replacement Reply with quote

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veedub13 wrote:
Working on a 1971 changing the glass and covers. After multiple adjustments, I still can't get a good fit. There are gaps between the glass and soft top cover at the bottom sides. Looks about 10mm off. The centre part of the glass fits fine, but the sides don't. Are there other adjustments I can make?


Hi veedub13, First, that's a beautiful color combination! Also, what type of padding did you use between the frame and the top cover?

As to your question, similar small gaps resulted when I replaced the top on my '71. At the time I hypothesized that a possible remedy might have been to adjust the position of the rear window hinges further upward, but as [email protected] pointed out (https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=297091) that adjustment is limited by the rear cowling. Since the rear window hinge adjustment has a ripple effect on measurements throughout the installation, the only way to test the hypothesis would be to start over, so I thank the German engineers who thought to add the rain gutters to the rear window frame and the drain tubes over the wheel arches, as I haven't had any leaks even in severe downpours of rain.


Hey thanks very much for the reply. Padding is just foam that upholsterers use. Unfortunately, some parts of the top were pinched and poked through and I'll need to replace the entire top altogether. I'm also going to attempt to re-measure and fit everything again to get this glass to fit properly.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:18 am    Post subject: Re: 1970 Convertible Top Replacement Reply with quote

veedub13 wrote:
Working on a 1971 changing the glass and covers. After multiple adjustments, I still can't get a good fit. There are gaps between the glass and soft top cover at the bottom sides. Looks about 10mm off. The centre part of the glass fits fine, but the sides don't. Are there other adjustments I can make?

Hi veedub13, First, that's a beautiful color combination! Also, what type of padding did you use between the frame and the top cover?

As to your question, similar small gaps resulted when I replaced the top on my '71. At the time I hypothesized that a possible remedy might have been to adjust the position of the rear window hinges further upward, but as [email protected] pointed out (https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=297091) that adjustment is limited by the rear cowling. Since the rear window hinge adjustment has a ripple effect on measurements throughout the installation, the only way to test the hypothesis would be to start over, so I thank the German engineers who thought to add the rain gutters to the rear window frame and the drain tubes over the wheel arches, as I haven't had any leaks even in severe downpours of rain.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:38 am    Post subject: Re: 1970 Convertible Top Replacement Reply with quote

Hi this info has been extremely useful.

Working on a 1971 changing the glass and covers. After multiple adjustments, I still can't get a good fit. There are gaps between the glass and soft top cover at the bottom sides. Looks about 10mm off. The centre part of the glass fits fine, but the sides don't. Are there other adjustments I can make?

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