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swhitcomb
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My car is missing quite a bit of the zbar setup. I don't know the system at all. I have no idea what I am missing and can't find any of it for sale anywhere. Where can I find it and a diagram of what it should look like.
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fred69vert
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I found lots of info using the "search" (Z-bar) on the late model forum. I recently got a 68 'vert that is missing a lot of the z-bar hardware.
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drscope
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Wofsburg West has almost all the parts except for the bar itself. Go to their site and search z bar;
http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/SearchResults.cfm
I thought they had a picture showing where everything went but I didn't find it.
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if you don't have the appropriate Bentley manual, I can scan the page that shows the equalizer spring.... I may even still have some of the components that came off my 68 bug laying in the dirt somewhere.
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swhitcomb
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I do have the bentley for the car. I guess I missed it when I looked. I'm glad to see that WW sells all the bushings. I'll order them. One more question. Sorry to sound so uninformed. I really do know what I am doing most of the time and have been working on VWs for about 20 years, but never had a 67. Does the zbar have to come off to remove the body?
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gt1953
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Short answer Yes. It has a mechanical connect between the body and the drive line.
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I have a pair of the brackets that mount on the axle tube if anybody needs them.
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drscope
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| I do have the bentley for the car. I guess I missed it when I looked. I'm glad to see that WW sells all the bushings. I'll order them. One more question. Sorry to sound so uninformed. I really do know what I am doing most of the time and have been working on VWs for about 20 years, but never had a 67. Does the zbar have to come off to remove the body? |
Not really! The bar won't have to come off, but you do need to undo the links so the bar is free from the suspension on the bottom. The bar can stay with the body.
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swhitcomb
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Thanks everyone for the pics and links. I'm in the middle of a body off resto on this 67 and had no idea what was even missing let alone where to find it.
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| I don't know if the z-bar really does anything but i left it on because VW put it there for a reason. |
Set up stock, it's nothing but an overload spring so you don't bottom out fully loaded. if you never load the back you won't miss it
It was added when VW softened the rear springs and raised the font end a bit to minimize oversteer.
Shimmed it can provide some roll stiffness but this undoes what VW intended unless you also add a thicker front anti-roll bar. |
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