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joebug1956 Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2006 Posts: 362 Location: Richmond VA
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Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:50 am Post subject: Antenna dimple |
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I have a 52 Deluxe, It dosent have a dimple on the roof for an antenna mount. Any idea why this is? What years or models came with this dimple? |
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johnshenry Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9364 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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I believe that the dimple ended with zwitter on Oct 1, 1952. What month is your '52?? _________________ John Henry
'57 Deluxe
'56 Single Cab |
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splitvws Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 142
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Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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My old September 52 car didnt have the dimple on the roof.
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Wiggy Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2003 Posts: 6601 Location: Downingtown, PA
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joebug1956 Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2006 Posts: 362 Location: Richmond VA
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Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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its a Jan. 52... no dimple... im confused |
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johnshenry Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9364 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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joebug1956 wrote: |
its a Jan. 52... no dimple... im confused |
Somebody could have hammered it out. Its been done before..... _________________ John Henry
'57 Deluxe
'56 Single Cab |
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Hebster52 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2003 Posts: 1772 Location: Finland, Jakobstad
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17285 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:03 am Post subject: |
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Wiggy wrote: |
The dimple ended at the very end of split dash production, so yeah, you could have a Sept 52 split and have no dimple. |
Fixed it for ya. _________________
overheard at the portland Swap Meet... wrote: |
..... a steering wheel made from a mastadon tusk..... |
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Wiggy Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2003 Posts: 6601 Location: Downingtown, PA
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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Bruce wrote: |
Wiggy wrote: |
The dimple ended at the very end of split dash production, so yeah, you could have a Sept 52 split and have no dimple. |
Fixed it for ya. |
No you didn't. _________________ Kevin "Wiggy"
My 58 Ghia Vert
My 51 Split 11G
My 57 Deluxe
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Wiggy Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2003 Posts: 6601 Location: Downingtown, PA
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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joebug1956 wrote: |
its a Jan. 52... no dimple... im confused |
Should have the dimple.
It was probably hammered out like John said. _________________ Kevin "Wiggy"
My 58 Ghia Vert
My 51 Split 11G
My 57 Deluxe
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado
Joined: June 16, 2006 Posts: 24059 Location: Southeast USA
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Wiggy wrote: |
The dimple ended at the very end of split production, so yeah, you could have a Sept 52 split and have no dimple. |
To clarify, production of the Volkswagen sedan with a split rear window ended in March of '53. The roof dimple ended with production of the twin-glovebox-dash split at the end of Sept. 1952. All split rear window cars built after Sept. didn't have it. If your car is a pre-Oct. '52 car and is missing the bump, it's because some previous owner or bodyman decided it shouldn't be there and eliminated it. _________________ We are striving for perfection, to make our cars run forever, if possible.
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joebug1956 Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2006 Posts: 362 Location: Richmond VA
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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Great..... Anyone have a close up pic of the dimple so I can figure out how to pull mine back out and get it straight again? |
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johnshenry Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9364 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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Blue Baron wrote: |
Wiggy wrote: |
The dimple ended at the very end of split production, so yeah, you could have a Sept 52 split and have no dimple. |
To clarify, production of the Volkswagen sedan with a split rear window ended in March of '53. The roof dimple ended with production of the twin-glovebox-dash split at the end of Sept. 1952. All split rear window cars built after Sept. didn't have it. If your car is a pre-Oct. '52 car and is missing the bump, it's because some previous owner or bodyman decided it shouldn't be there and eliminated it. |
Yeah, but "splits" ended in Sept '52. Ovals with split rear windows started in Oct '52. _________________ John Henry
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado
Joined: June 16, 2006 Posts: 24059 Location: Southeast USA
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I understand that. But there are still a few people left who come here for facts and not BS. _________________ We are striving for perfection, to make our cars run forever, if possible.
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Dropped Metal Customs Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2007 Posts: 207
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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johnshenry wrote: |
Blue Baron wrote: |
Wiggy wrote: |
The dimple ended at the very end of split production, so yeah, you could have a Sept 52 split and have no dimple. |
To clarify, production of the Volkswagen sedan with a split rear window ended in March of '53. The roof dimple ended with production of the twin-glovebox-dash split at the end of Sept. 1952. All split rear window cars built after Sept. didn't have it. If your car is a pre-Oct. '52 car and is missing the bump, it's because some previous owner or bodyman decided it shouldn't be there and eliminated it. |
Yeah, but "splits" ended in Sept '52. Ovals with split rear windows started in Oct '52. |
Thats such a stupid comment if the car left the vw factory with a split rear window its a split period, just because 50years later the earlier dash is more desirable dont mean the zwitters are not splits.
there called splits due to there rear windows not there dash!
vw owners are some of the most down to earth poeple ive met but you interweb dubbers are so up your own arses!
rant over;) _________________ BUSDROPPINGBEAMNARROWINGSTEERINGBOXRAISING"C"NOTCHINGRUSTREPAIRINGBEETLEDROPPING
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543fold Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2007 Posts: 139 Location: Texas
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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It is the same for standards? _________________ https://www.instagram.com/w.a.r._wills.auto.restoration/
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jcannon Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2006 Posts: 126
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like I need to figure out the official way to quote someone...
LongMooie wrote:
"Thats such a stupid comment if the car left the vw factory with a split rear window its a split period, just because 50years later the earlier dash is more desirable dont mean the zwitters are not splits. "
In the terms of this forum, and other VW people I know, when people say "split" they refer to a car with a split rear window and a two glovebox dash. When they say "zwitter" they mean a split rear window and a dash with one glove box and central grill. When they say "oval" they mean an oval rear window and dash with one glovebox and central grill.
So yes, a "zwitter" has a split rear window but to me it is not the same as a split. If a car was listed for sale as a "split" I expect to see two gloveboxes and a split rear window.
I checked the dictionary on this site and found that "split" as I defined it is not listed. "Split window" is listed and as defined would include zwitters. Maybe "split" ought to be added.
Consider this. This forum is for information. If you were to say "I need a speedometer needle for my split" and you have a zwitter, you are going to get the wrong part.
Regarding the original post, my June '52 "split" with two gloveboxes has no antenna dimple. On the inside of the roof I can see the hammer marks where a prior owner flattened it. |
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joebug1956 Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2006 Posts: 362 Location: Richmond VA
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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the original post about my JANUARY 52 was answered 10 posts ago. Why is it like a contest to see who knows more or who qoutes the best?
Thanks for those who answered my question.... |
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drscope Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2007 Posts: 15273 Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Could someone explain how you can have a split convertable? _________________ Mother Nature is a Mean Evil Bitch! |
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joebug1956 Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2006 Posts: 362 Location: Richmond VA
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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drscope wrote: |
Could someone explain how you can have a split convertable? |
The topic was about an antenna dimple... |
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