Hello! Log in or Register   |  Help  |  Donate  |  Buy Shirts See all banner ads | Advertise on TheSamba.com  
TheSamba.com
 
Hazet Tools w/photos
Page: 1, 2, 3 ... 32, 33, 34  Next
Jump to:
Forum Index -> Accessories/Memorabilia/Toys Share: Facebook Twitter
Reply to topic
Print View
Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
rsbadura
Samba Member


Joined: November 30, 2009
Posts: 432
Location: Berlin, Germany
rsbadura is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:40 am    Post subject: Re: Hazet Tools w/photos Reply with quote

notchboy wrote:
... I had to find them, send to a friend and sometimes make bank to bank money exchanges .

Yes, I know, have been collecting worldwide for decades - USA / Brazil / Japan / South Africa / ... also before Internet classifieds / PayPal / IBAN / ... which made it a lot easier today Wink But I hope that after many CoViD-19 cancellations, vintage car markets will also reopen next year....

And my late started HAZET collection is not only from Germany, a lot from across Europe, some from the US and one from South Africa. So Germany isn't a wonderland for old HAZET tools. But yes, easier, than from the US. Wink Still searching for standard tools like a 300g hammer 2140-3 of the 70s since years - worldwide!

notchboy wrote:
I did find an early air cooled VW one, offered $1700 for it...

quite expensive - rare, but I think nobody will pay this anymore in Germany.

HAZET tools are not as popular today, as some decades ago.
The brand is not visible in times of ev cars - and also in workshops beside all the cheaper worldwide tools or HAZET sub-brands as VIGOR.
The marketing did not use the old good name in vintage car markets.
So only a few of my (younger) VW friends know about them today.
Anyway - I love these old classic tools...

regards,
_________________
Rolf-Stephan Badura
1970 VW Karmann-Ghia Coupé (Type 14)
1979 VW luxury bus camper conversion (Type 22, T2b)
1982 Eriba Pan travel trailer
2017 VW CrossPolo (Type 6C)
Hazet collection (~300 tools)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
notchboy
Samba Member


Joined: April 27, 2002
Posts: 21430
Location: Escondido CA
notchboy is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Hazet Tools w/photos Reply with quote

rsbadura wrote:
nice finds, awesome condition Applause
love the big 4500 carburetor set from around 1979... even if this is mainly not anymore for aircooled cars as older 4500/9...

Looks like soemone added some sockets to the 900 Z set Wink - possibly the useful smallest 10 + 11 of the 904 Z set?

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Your picture did not come through?

I am envious of you being in Germany and having these things easily avalable when you find them. I had to find them, send to a friend and sometimes make bank to bank money exchanges that cost me $25 more. And none of these people would send to the US. I am very happy to have German friends like you brother that can help when needed. As well as myself helping over here if you need US VW parts. Cool

Yeah, the 4500 is not exactly what I wanted - but could be used to trade for the early one I want. I did find an early air cooled VW one, offered $1700 for it, but he was not ready.
_________________
t3kg wrote:

OK, this thread is over. You win.

Jason "notchboy" Weigel
1964 1500 S
1964 T34 S Convertible
1977 Westfalia Camper pop-top
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
rsbadura
Samba Member


Joined: November 30, 2009
Posts: 432
Location: Berlin, Germany
rsbadura is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 4:25 am    Post subject: Re: Hazet Tools w/photos Reply with quote

nice finds, awesome condition Applause
love the big 4500 carburetor set from around 1979... even if this is mainly not anymore for aircooled cars as older 4500/9...

Looks like soemone added some sockets to the 900 Z set Wink - possibly the useful smallest 10 + 11 of the 904 Z set?

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
Rolf-Stephan Badura
1970 VW Karmann-Ghia Coupé (Type 14)
1979 VW luxury bus camper conversion (Type 22, T2b)
1982 Eriba Pan travel trailer
2017 VW CrossPolo (Type 6C)
Hazet collection (~300 tools)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
notchboy
Samba Member


Joined: April 27, 2002
Posts: 21430
Location: Escondido CA
notchboy is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Hazet Tools w/photos Reply with quote

Got some long awaited tools in today.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
t3kg wrote:

OK, this thread is over. You win.

Jason "notchboy" Weigel
1964 1500 S
1964 T34 S Convertible
1977 Westfalia Camper pop-top
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
rsbadura
Samba Member


Joined: November 30, 2009
Posts: 432
Location: Berlin, Germany
rsbadura is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:38 am    Post subject: Re: Hazet Tools w/photos Reply with quote

HAZET 2146 - feeler gauge (version 1979 to 1985)

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
Rolf-Stephan Badura
1970 VW Karmann-Ghia Coupé (Type 14)
1979 VW luxury bus camper conversion (Type 22, T2b)
1982 Eriba Pan travel trailer
2017 VW CrossPolo (Type 6C)
Hazet collection (~300 tools)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
rsbadura
Samba Member


Joined: November 30, 2009
Posts: 432
Location: Berlin, Germany
rsbadura is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:41 am    Post subject: Re: Hazet Tools w/photos Reply with quote

58Sleeper wrote:
Anyone has a picture of 51/51 screwdriver...

What is a 51/51? This is not a HAZET order number or size..., is it?
And which time frame you are looking for? The design and imprints changed over the years.

Typical since 1933 HAZET screwdriver versions have 8xx numbers with a size version at the end as 8xx-s
e.g. 815-4 (wood, blue painted, later not) - or 831-2 (transparent yellow, later black) - 834-3 (small transparent yellow, later black)

see the HAZET catalogues at https://www.hazet.de/en/catalogue-history
or on my website with detailed photos (click on the previews to enlarge) of some of them: https://www-vw--t2--bulli-de.translate.goog/hazet-...et800to849
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


regards,
_________________
Rolf-Stephan Badura
1970 VW Karmann-Ghia Coupé (Type 14)
1979 VW luxury bus camper conversion (Type 22, T2b)
1982 Eriba Pan travel trailer
2017 VW CrossPolo (Type 6C)
Hazet collection (~300 tools)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
58Sleeper
Samba Member


Joined: November 16, 2012
Posts: 166

58Sleeper is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Hazet Tools w/photos Reply with quote

Anyone has a picture of 51/51 screwdriver the large one or small? I want to see the writing on the shafts.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
rsbadura
Samba Member


Joined: November 30, 2009
Posts: 432
Location: Berlin, Germany
rsbadura is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:05 am    Post subject: Re: Hazet Tools w/photos Reply with quote

Hello,

not found here till now... HAZET 2524 (available in 1951 to 1972)

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


This 8" (200 mm) long "kerf punch"? (in German "Kerbstemmer") is used to secure the connecting rod bearing screws of the VW type 1, 2, 3 and 4 engine - and the special nut of the lever bolts of the VW type 1 and 2 clutch. It corresponds to the Volkswagen special tool "VW 124".

regards
_________________
Rolf-Stephan Badura
1970 VW Karmann-Ghia Coupé (Type 14)
1979 VW luxury bus camper conversion (Type 22, T2b)
1982 Eriba Pan travel trailer
2017 VW CrossPolo (Type 6C)
Hazet collection (~300 tools)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
rsbadura
Samba Member


Joined: November 30, 2009
Posts: 432
Location: Berlin, Germany
rsbadura is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 1:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Hazet Tools w/photos Reply with quote

Hello,

The issue of the unknown symbol (triangular crown) at the HAZET 2140-2 hammer head is solved:
It is from the old company CADOS "Carl Döhl Söhne" (Carl Doehl sons, 1859 to ~1984, 1969 bought by Peddinghaus, which still lends its name to the CADOS trademark to some hammers). But Peddinghaus is somehow a competitor of HAZET - so I guess this hammer is not so much later than 1969.

CADOS was located at Wuppertal-Ronsdorf in Germany (with only 6 miles quite near the location of HAZET in Remscheid).

Thanks Kamil from Poland for the company name hint Applause

regards,

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
Rolf-Stephan Badura
1970 VW Karmann-Ghia Coupé (Type 14)
1979 VW luxury bus camper conversion (Type 22, T2b)
1982 Eriba Pan travel trailer
2017 VW CrossPolo (Type 6C)
Hazet collection (~300 tools)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
rsbadura
Samba Member


Joined: November 30, 2009
Posts: 432
Location: Berlin, Germany
rsbadura is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 8:22 am    Post subject: Re: Hazet Tools w/photos Reply with quote

Hello again,

I still try to identify HAZET hammers of the past...

And now an additional smaller 2140-2 (I guess from 1965-1985) - restorated myself.
Specials are the imprints "HAZET" and "2140-2" at the head in the middle without "GERMANY" and
an (until now) unknown symbol (triangular crown) below the "200 DIN 1041".

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



The two 2140-2 (200 g weight) and 2140-5 (500 g) were part of the HAZET 2500 tool range for Volkswagen:

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


regards,
_________________
Rolf-Stephan Badura
1970 VW Karmann-Ghia Coupé (Type 14)
1979 VW luxury bus camper conversion (Type 22, T2b)
1982 Eriba Pan travel trailer
2017 VW CrossPolo (Type 6C)
Hazet collection (~300 tools)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
rsbadura
Samba Member


Joined: November 30, 2009
Posts: 432
Location: Berlin, Germany
rsbadura is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Hazet Tools w/photos Reply with quote

Hello,

for HAZET VW tool kits 2500 the hammers 2140-2 (weight 200 g) and 2140-5 (500 g) were usual.

Not sure if you could help me...
while searching for vintage old '70s HAZET hammers,
the old catalogues did not help very much, because the images are less detailed for identification.
Anybody with photos of old 2140 hammers of the past?

Till today I have only this newer one 2140-5 (I guess from 1992-2000) - restorated myself.
Specials are the "Hickory" imprint with sans serif italic font and
the imprints at the head end with only a small "GERMANY" and right-aligned of the 3 lines
(today these lines are centered, with bigger GERMANY... and much more imprints at the shaft, plus the BluGuard).

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


regards
_________________
Rolf-Stephan Badura
1970 VW Karmann-Ghia Coupé (Type 14)
1979 VW luxury bus camper conversion (Type 22, T2b)
1982 Eriba Pan travel trailer
2017 VW CrossPolo (Type 6C)
Hazet collection (~300 tools)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
rsbadura
Samba Member


Joined: November 30, 2009
Posts: 432
Location: Berlin, Germany
rsbadura is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:32 am    Post subject: Re: Hazet Tools w/photos Reply with quote

Hello again,

HAZET 4501 from around 1969 to 1976.
This special measuring device for carburettors belonged in the 9-piece "4500/9" set to the HAZET workshop equipment for air-cooled VWs.

It is screwed onto the throttle valve shaft as an extension, the angle disk is fixed with a knurled screw and the free plumb weight with pointer shows the changes in angle of the shaft...

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

(the HAZET decals are self made)

regards,
_________________
Rolf-Stephan Badura
1970 VW Karmann-Ghia Coupé (Type 14)
1979 VW luxury bus camper conversion (Type 22, T2b)
1982 Eriba Pan travel trailer
2017 VW CrossPolo (Type 6C)
Hazet collection (~300 tools)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
rsbadura
Samba Member


Joined: November 30, 2009
Posts: 432
Location: Berlin, Germany
rsbadura is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: Hazet Tools w/photos Reply with quote

Hi, everyone,

HAZET 2590 torque wrench of the old shape from around 1958 to 1976.
(inscripts at the tool only a "DP", "Mp", "MADE IN GERMANY", "No 72/6" - no "HAZET" or "2590").

I got the information, that Hazet bought the torque wrench up to the in-house development around 1976 (successors like the 6121 CT). From whom, not known/told. Because Stahlwille not only had the 72/6, but also other torque range models such as 72/12 etc. and still has the product name Manoskop, it is obvious to me that the purchase was made at Stahlwille.

The handles (first with notches, later round without) and the 1/2 " end (first thickening on the tube, later without) changed over the years 1958-76. Stahlwille versions with the inscription "Manoskop" at the handles - the Hazet apparently without. The HAZET catalogs did not show this iteration - but there are other variants in the usage examples visible (e.g. 1969 and 1976 shorter handles - in a Mercedes of the early 60s).

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Hazet catalog 1958:
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


regards
_________________
Rolf-Stephan Badura
1970 VW Karmann-Ghia Coupé (Type 14)
1979 VW luxury bus camper conversion (Type 22, T2b)
1982 Eriba Pan travel trailer
2017 VW CrossPolo (Type 6C)
Hazet collection (~300 tools)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
rsbadura
Samba Member


Joined: November 30, 2009
Posts: 432
Location: Berlin, Germany
rsbadura is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:39 am    Post subject: Re: Hazet Tools w/photos Reply with quote

HAZET 1966-1 - an impact hammer to remove disc brake pads, 2.3 lbs
(or as single spare parts 1966-0 hammer handle and 1966-01 clutch)

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


In HAZET catalogues it is part of the "special and standard tools for Volkswagen" (but also for Mercedes, BMW, ...) and was avaiable from 1972 to 1992. First version from 1972 to 1985. The second version was available with "W-GERMANY" and later only "GERMANY". The clutch could be exchanged with 1966-02 (Fiat, Peugeot, others) or 1966-05 (clutch for Opel wipers).

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


only for my collection as nice to have - never needed to use them the past decades Wink

regards,
_________________
Rolf-Stephan Badura
1970 VW Karmann-Ghia Coupé (Type 14)
1979 VW luxury bus camper conversion (Type 22, T2b)
1982 Eriba Pan travel trailer
2017 VW CrossPolo (Type 6C)
Hazet collection (~300 tools)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Kunal Verma
Samba Member


Joined: May 17, 2009
Posts: 57
Location: Caledon, ON
Kunal Verma is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: Hazet Tools w/photos Reply with quote

Thanks, Rolf. I did not know of Matador either until I came across this set at the auction. I picked it up due to it's exceptional condition.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
rsbadura
Samba Member


Joined: November 30, 2009
Posts: 432
Location: Berlin, Germany
rsbadura is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:05 am    Post subject: Re: Hazet Tools w/photos Reply with quote

Kunal Verma wrote:
Picked up this vintage Matador socket set ... Can anyone provide further insight on this?

Nice find, nice condition,
but IMHO not at the same league as Hazet - and to me nearly unknown for vintage tools.

I never heard of Matador collectors or fans - or special VW/Mercedes/BMW tools from them - so not as common in private vintage VW/Mercedes/BMW garages and not as coveted as HAZET Wink
The company is not as old as Hazet, but from the same town in Germany - where also other better known tool companies are located as Gedore or nearby Stahlwille.

See company website https://www.matador.de/en/About-Matador/
or other tool forums as https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/antique-market-score-matador.35343/

regards,

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
Rolf-Stephan Badura
1970 VW Karmann-Ghia Coupé (Type 14)
1979 VW luxury bus camper conversion (Type 22, T2b)
1982 Eriba Pan travel trailer
2017 VW CrossPolo (Type 6C)
Hazet collection (~300 tools)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Kunal Verma
Samba Member


Joined: May 17, 2009
Posts: 57
Location: Caledon, ON
Kunal Verma is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Hazet Tools w/photos Reply with quote

Picked up this vintage Matador socket set at a local auction today. Google search did not provide much information. Can anyone provide further insight on this?

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
rsbadura
Samba Member


Joined: November 30, 2009
Posts: 432
Location: Berlin, Germany
rsbadura is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:34 am    Post subject: Re: Hazet Tools w/photos Reply with quote

not seen here in this thread till now:

HAZET "2522" VW aircooled piston ring clamping plier.
Only existed around 1972. Used for type 1, 2, 3 and 4 engines.
(it looks nearly similar to the more common watercooled version "794 U-3", but with e.g. other ring.)

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


the same with this:

HAZET "2596" - oil filter wrench.
Only existed around 1972. Used for type 4 engines.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
Rolf-Stephan Badura
1970 VW Karmann-Ghia Coupé (Type 14)
1979 VW luxury bus camper conversion (Type 22, T2b)
1982 Eriba Pan travel trailer
2017 VW CrossPolo (Type 6C)
Hazet collection (~300 tools)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
rsbadura
Samba Member


Joined: November 30, 2009
Posts: 432
Location: Berlin, Germany
rsbadura is offline 

PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2021 9:18 am    Post subject: Re: Hazet Tools w/photos Reply with quote

Hello everyone,

my current (not finished) collection of classic HAZET ratchets:

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


from left to right:
a) 1925-30 - Hazet 240-59 - 9/16" hex drive predecesssor of the 916, 8 teeth, mechanism open on the side and front
b) 1933-51 - Hazet 916 - first 916 1/2" square drive ratchet, 18 teeth, mechanism is closed
c) 1952-65 - Hazet 916 - little "a" version "Hazet", 28 teeth
d) 1965-69 - HAZET 916 - same now with "HAZET", 28 teeth
e) ~1969 - HAZET 916 S, 32 teeth
f) ~1972 - HAZET 916 S, 32 teeth
g) 1976-84 - HAZET 916 SP, 32 teeth
h) 1985 - HAZET 916 SP, 32 teeth
i) 1985-2000 - HAZET 916, 32 teeth
j) 1992-2000 - HAZET 916 N, 32 teeth
k) ~2000 - HAZET 916 S (T), 32 teeth
l) ~2000 - HAZET 916 ST, 32 teeth

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


more photos at https://www.vw-t2-bulli.de/hazet-de.html

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


(my previous issue with wet slide decals is solved - by simply printing on special paper Embarassed )
_________________
Rolf-Stephan Badura
1970 VW Karmann-Ghia Coupé (Type 14)
1979 VW luxury bus camper conversion (Type 22, T2b)
1982 Eriba Pan travel trailer
2017 VW CrossPolo (Type 6C)
Hazet collection (~300 tools)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
twinturbo959
Samba Member


Joined: March 02, 2018
Posts: 6
Location: NY
twinturbo959 is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:42 am    Post subject: Re: Hazet Tools w/photos Reply with quote

Hello Everyone, after just having gone through these 33 pages, I need help finding a 772/1 (ONE) Lug wrench c.1952. I am willing to pay top dollar, so please PM me. These can be easily distinguished from the more common 772/2 (TWO) Lug wrench by looking at the hub cap puller. On the 772/1 it is a "blade" type. This is different from the "pin" type seen on the 772/2.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



Thank you,
Ben
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Accessories/Memorabilia/Toys All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page: 1, 2, 3 ... 32, 33, 34  Next
Jump to:
Page 1 of 34

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

About | Help! | Advertise | Donate | Premium Membership | Privacy/Terms of Use | Contact Us | Site Map
Copyright © 1996-2020, Everett Barnes. All Rights Reserved.
Not affiliated with or sponsored by Volkswagen of America | Forum powered by phpBB