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AlteWagen
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Just wondering if original keys for a 63 type I are offset like these
or centered like these
Images from the classifieds. |
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Insaniac
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| I believe it should be the off centered type. I do have an SC key that is centered tho', but I don't think many were made that way. |
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Ask Gabe.
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Koffer
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I have the OG key that came with my car and its the SU profile . The key head is centered on the shaft . All the HUF replacements Ive seen are offset . Ive seen a few aftermarket non stamped with the VW logo just solid head, not off set but its been a while
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AlteWagen
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| Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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thanks
My 63 is an SU as well.
Is there a sticky that I missed about keys?? |
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PSScoots
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| Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| We were first owners of a 1963 bug while I was growing up. The ignition key was offset, the engine compartment key was centered. My 66 bug is the same way. |
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67 Florida Deluxe
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Koffer
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| SU key codes which fit 1963 come in both styles - centered and offset. I have SU Hufs in both styles. |
Sorry is this
For sale or just a FYI ?
( as I'm looking for some centered type  )
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AlteWagen
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Doors and ignition use the same key right?
This is from a aug 63 owners manual. It shows a centered key.
65 manual, centered key
67 off center
I take it replacements could be either way.
Were verts the only model that had total matching keys? (doors, hood lock, glove box, and decklid) |
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67 Florida Deluxe
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| Koffer wrote: |
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| SU key codes which fit 1963 come in both styles - centered and offset. I have SU Hufs in both styles. |
Sorry is this
For sale or just a FYI ?
( as I'm looking for some centered type ) |
Just an FYI  . The owner's manual may show the centered style, but like I said, SU comes in both style. You may want to contact Gabriel the VW key guru or check his ads. They pop up from time to time and he can cut them according to your key code.
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alienchauncey
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| Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:14 pm Post subject: key |
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My 65 only came with one key off centered without a cut out "the one on the bottom". Found the correct key blank with cut out on line. They called it an "aftermarket" ignition key. Its a little different but works fine. I showed it to my friend with a 63 and his was exactly the same "aftermarket" ignition key. Even the same cut too. we tried both our keys in each others ignitions and they both start. I wonder how many of us have the same damn key.
does your keys look like this??? |
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EXJAY
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^ that cut looks famillar 
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black.e90
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:46 pm Post subject: Re: key |
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| alienchauncey wrote: |
My 65 only came with one key off centered without a cut out "the one on the bottom". Found the correct key blank with cut out on line. They called it an "aftermarket" ignition key. Its a little different but works fine. I showed it to my friend with a 63 and his was exactly the same "aftermarket" ignition key. Even the same cut too. we tried both our keys in each others ignitions and they both start. I wonder how many of us have the same damn key.
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Which key profile is the key on top? I have the same after market key and after comparing it to this picture its a dead ringer. I am hoping to get a OG VW key soon, but don't know the key profile |
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Dangermouse
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I'm lucky enough to have my original SG73 key and it's offset but with the VW rotated 90 degrees to the ones shown.
I'd quite like a spare in this style.
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anthracitedub
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I have both of my 62's original keys…they are not offset.
My 57 Ghia has the original key and it is offset. |
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65VOLLA
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| Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:08 am Post subject: 58 key |
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| Could anyone pls assist on which is the correct key for my 58 Bug |
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Bruce
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The two keys that are horizontal in this pic are correct for your car.
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VdubPilot
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: key |
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| alienchauncey wrote: |
My 65 only came with one key off centered without a cut out "the one on the bottom". Found the correct key blank with cut out on line. They called it an "aftermarket" ignition key. Its a little different but works fine. I showed it to my friend with a 63 and his was exactly the same "aftermarket" ignition key. Even the same cut too. we tried both our keys in each others ignitions and they both start. I wonder how many of us have the same damn key.
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My 63 has an aftermarket ignition with a key that is nearly identical to the one on the bottom, and I would like a key with the VW emblem like the one on the top. None of the original key blanks seem to be the right type of key to make a copy. Does anyone know where I could get a key like the one on top? |
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Bruce
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Correct looking keys don't exist for your aftermarket repro ignition switch. If you want the correct key, you must buy an original ignition switch.
If you don't like the idea of using a 45 year old switch, you can transfer the original lock cylinder into your repro ignition switch. That will allow you to use the correct key.
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