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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:23 am    Post subject: Split tow hitch vs Abarth muffler Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

I am working on the engine of my SO23 westy to make it look old speed style and I am planning to buy a repro flat4 abarth muffler.

I was just wondering if such a muffler would fit with a westfalia split tow hitch?

Thanks in advance for your help.

/Jerome
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:26 am    Post subject: Re: Split tow hitch vs Abarth muffler Reply with quote

grailoc wrote:
Hi everyone,

I am working on the engine of my SO23 westy to make it look old speed style and I am planning to buy a repro flat4 abarth muffler.

I was just wondering if such a muffler would fit with a westfalia split tow hitch?

Thanks in advance for your help.

/Jerome


Do you have pix of said muffler?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:18 am    Post subject: Re: Split tow hitch vs Abarth muffler Reply with quote

that one:
http://www.cip1.ca/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C21%2D1051%2D10

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this is the 1600 Cc version since I have a 1600 Cc SP in my bus.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OUCH!!!!... Not an inexpensive addition. Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave24 wrote:
OUCH!!!!... Not an inexpensive addition. Shocked

CIP1 Canada does interesting discounts 2 or 3 time per year, my plan is to wait until the next one.
But I need before that to be sure that it will fit with a westfalia tow hitch Question
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That will never work
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

grailoc wrote:
Dave24 wrote:
OUCH!!!!... Not an inexpensive addition. Shocked

CIP1 Canada does interesting discounts 2 or 3 time per year, my plan is to wait until the next one.
But I need before that to be sure that it will fit with a westfalia tow hitch Question


Will those pipes clear your apron?? Says it is for a beetle/gia
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Will those pipes clear your apron?? Says it is for a beetle/gia


It should work with the apron and bumper.

Here is the same type of setup I should end up with my bus:

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But if I was able the keep the hitch it would be great Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like that apron is cut... big-time.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KevinAlbrecht wrote:
grailoc wrote:
Dave24 wrote:
OUCH!!!!... Not an inexpensive addition. Shocked

CIP1 Canada does interesting discounts 2 or 3 time per year, my plan is to wait until the next one.
But I need before that to be sure that it will fit with a westfalia tow hitch Question

Will those pipes clear your apron?? Says it is for a beetle/gia

A 36hp Bus owner told me the36hp version did not clear his 36hp Bus apron.

So unless the layout is different, it doesn't fit a stock Bus rear apron.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave24 wrote:
OUCH!!!!... Not an inexpensive addition. Shocked


Which one?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks great!

Any chance the tips can burn your leg?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crofty wrote:
Dave24 wrote:
OUCH!!!!... Not an inexpensive addition. Shocked


Which one?
Think ... your choice. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two wrongs discussed don't make a right. Even if completed, the abarth's gonna belch spluey all over your Eriba.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grailoc: Just so you know, WW has the EXACT s/s German repro Abarth replica 4-tip for a couple hundred $$ less than CIP. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave24 wrote:
Grailoc: Just so you know, WW has the EXACT s/s German repro Abarth replica 4-tip for a couple hundred $$ less than CIP. Wink


Thanks, that is what I just saw.
But some of the guys pointed out that is requires rear apron modifications, then I think I will not go into that direction even if I think that the look and feel of a abarth muffler on a bus looks great.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

grailoc wrote:
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Grailoc: Just so you know, WW has the EXACT s/s German repro Abarth replica 4-tip for a couple hundred $$ less than CIP. Wink


Thanks, that is what I just saw.
But some of the guys pointed out that is requires rear apron modifications, then I think I will not go into that direction even if I think that the look and feel of a abarth muffler on a bus looks great.
Seems like a lot of work and $$ to do, the job on the above pic'd bus looks nice... but not worth the cutting and $$$, to me anyway.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the Westy hitch would fit as the outriggers go about even with the rear pipe clamps and the bumper bracket should clear between stingers.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have this muffler in my '55 bus with a stroked 1800cc and the tailpipes do not clear the stock 36hp apron for sure. I ended up cutting the tailpipes off and re-welding them on lower on the muffler to clear the apron. A bit of effort, but the sound was worth it! Just thought I would confirm this in case anybody was searching for the answer...
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