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Popsvan
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I scored a wheel from an early Jetta on Ebay waited for it. Popped the old huge wheel off tonight, jetta doesn't fit! I have an 82 with a narrow spline the jetta is bigger. Any ideas on adapters?
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I scored a wheel from an early Jetta on Ebay waited for it. Popped the old huge wheel off tonight, jetta doesn't fit! I have an 82 with a narrow spline the jetta is bigger. Any ideas on adapters?
Thanks,
Rory |
Yep, you need to get one from your VW dealer unless you can pull one from a salvage yard. They're inexpensive aluminum, and you'll probably need to trim it at the "shoulder" in order for it to be the correct height. Did this for my '91 GTI wheel and it worked fine. They look like this.
Not a Vanagon, but gives you an idea of how it all works:
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tozovr
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I have a 15" Grant GT wheel on my '83 and it looks amazing...unfortunately it blocks my speedo and temp gauge. I just found a '93 EV wheel I'm contemplating. The EV wheel is about 1.5" bigger and might help with my lack of Power steering 
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syncrodoka
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| I just found a '93 EV wheel I'm contemplating. |
like this one? I stuck one in my truck a few years ago and I would never go back.
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Timwhy
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ALIKA T3
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Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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Here is an Audi 80 steering wheel from Europe.
I already did this swap in France,but it was better looking in France for 2 reasons:apparently there are 2 models with different offset,and I got the wrong one  Also mine is bent on the top,accidented:I hate the seller!!!!!!! .
The vanagon underneath
The A80 wheel I had in France,I was able to replace the horn ring with blinker tab thingy plug and play.This one I had to bore out one of the holes a little bit.
The A80 one
drilled 3/8 hole on left hole,
A80 with spring contact:different than from vanagon
Vangon ring on A80 wheel.
something's wrong,I don't remember the one in France looking like this one.....oh-oh
Damn!I knew it:steering wheel is too high!!
I did an emergency spacer with electrician insul tape,and bent up the contact for the horn:it works but I'm very disappointed....
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DAIZEE
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Location: Greater Toronto Area Ontario West Side
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I read this thread with interest. Most of it was over my head BUT getting the horn insert off was what I was looking for. Thanks.
I have the full size non power steering wheel which I like and want to keep. We got 2 or 3 of the joiners released but we couldn't get the end ones released and we stopped so that we didn't break it. I'm going to give JCharlton a head's up on this thread and perhaps it will give him some ideas.
Mine is not a steering wheel issue, its a horn issue inside this piece. We have electricity right to the ring on the wheel and periodic horn functioning.
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Popsvan
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Location: Louisa, VA
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Thanks for the help on the spline adapter! Scored one from Ebay half price of dealer and should be here tomorrow. Can't wait to see if the adapter changes all the posted info on the shims?
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Rory |
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Timwhy
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Thanks for the help on the spline adapter! Scored one from Ebay half price of dealer and should be here tomorrow. Can't wait to see if the adapter changes all the posted info on the shims?
Thanks,
Rory |
Pretty sure that adaptor will only make your wheel fit on the spline of the collumn.
If you are trying to get the blinker cancellation tab to work you still may have to shim
the blinker switch to make it work correctly. It's pretty easy to do this
and if there is a spacer on the collumn keeping it in place. The shims
will be needed, if not your collumn may be slightly loose or work it's
way loose.
That happened to mine when I did the swap. The damn horn kept sounding on each
and every turn, and the wheel felt loose. Put in another shim to keep
the collumn spacer in place and no more unwanted horn blowing.
Hope everthing comes together as planed!!
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snoop
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Had an issue with my steering collumn yesterday. Took the van out for a quick spin to give the battery a charge and I got as far as the end of the block. When I went left my wheel had alittle play in it. Up/down and left/right, then the horn started going off (great).
Went about 5 or 6 block and returned home. It was getting dark and there was no way to really get a good look at it. Got on the samba and PM'd Loogy. He responded with the perfect diagnosis the plastic sleeve had come up the collumn and the collumn now had some play in it.
This morning I went out before work and sure as Loogy said, that sleeve was up the collumn. Push it down and the collumn was tight. Problem is the new steering wheel doesn't go down far enough to put pressure on that sleeve so it happened again after I put everything back together.
So, remedy! I had to cut a piece if pvc pipe cuppling to bridge the gap between the wheel and the sleeve then put everything back together and see if it worked. It worked, Thanks Loogy! It was like you could see my steering collumn with such an accurate description of the problem.
On a side note while I had the collumn apart I replaced the ignition switch. Really easy 15 minute repair, what a difference that new switch makes. Just the feel of it tells me that the old one was on it's last legs.
Thanks goes out to Ben for the directions on that replacement. |
Encoutered the same symptoms this morning. Found this thread...thanks! In pulling the wheel and switch assembly to do the fix that Tim and Loogy describe I found what I think is a thrust ring(?), softish grey plastic thing located at the base of the spacer sleeve...its in real bad shape...pretty much toast actually. Sorry for the lousy picture...it's that greyish thing below the black spacer sleeve:
Does anyone know what this thing is (Bentley doesn't seem to mention it)? Or better yet, where to get one?
Thanks for any info!
Mike
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snoop
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Happy to report that an O-ring makes a dandy substitute for whatever that thingamabob is...nestles right into the annular space between the solid shaft and column housing. S'all good now.
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Bump.
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Team WorldTour
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I'm going to the wreckers today to find an early EV 'wheel that looks good. I would love to put the Golf 'wheel on, but I don't think I can get the spacer off bare-handed. I don't have a puller handy...
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joetiger 
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I just installed my Eurovan wheel. It's a little thicker than the manual wheel I had on before and little less diameter (so I'm back to losing the tops of the gauges) but it feels solid and looks good. I like it.
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davevickery
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I just installed my Eurovan wheel. It's a little thicker than the manual wheel I had on before and little less diameter (so I'm back to losing the tops of the gauges) but it feels solid and looks good. I like it.
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Is the Eurovan wheel better, besides looks? I picked one up (93) at a Junkyard and comparing it to my 87 wheel, it appears to be the exact same diameter and height. It does look a little more modern, but is there a difference in driving comfort or anything else?
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syncrodoka
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| They have a better feel and different positions to put your hand that is more comfortable to me, the spoke across the top is sloped and feels better on the wrist than the straight stock one. The minor problem is that the high beam is a little harder to engage/disengage since the base is wider and it touches the stalk when you pull it up. |
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Honuak
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| I put a 93' Eurovan wheel on my 87' and prefer the feel of it, more places to put the hands when driving, especially longer trips. But be warned that your high beams will not work without modifying (cutting) the Eurovan wheel. Not hard to do but easier prior to a full install. I found this out the hard way. And be sure to check that the stalk works when you turn the wheel. You end up cutting a good portion of the wheel to make it work. I used my go-to multi-tool but its soft rubber and cut easily. |
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designer
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sounds like defeating the purpose of a nice new modernish wheel install?
Pictures?
thanks
oh, and, was the 93 EV install a simple 24mm bolt off, switch wheels, 24mm bolt on or was there more to it (besides modifying for the brights?)
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Honuak
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sounds like defeating the purpose of a nice new modernish wheel install?
Pictures?
thanks
oh, and, was the 93 EV install a simple 24mm bolt off, switch wheels, 24mm bolt on or was there more to it (besides modifying for the brights?)
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Simple install. I don't have any pics but you cannot tell that the wheel is modified. Even if I pointed it out It's not a lot of material to remove and it cut clean/bevel with the multi-tool. You could use almost anything to cut it, soft-ish rubber/foam. IMHO its a big improvement from stock in terms of ergonomics. I could get some pics in daylight tomorrow. |
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syncrodoka
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When I swapped over to the curved style cruise control switch the issue went away.
I didn't mod anything. |
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