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Timwhy Samba Member

Joined: January 01, 2009 Posts: 3728 Location: Maine
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smurfpike Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:05 am Post subject: |
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syncrodoka wrote: |
They have a better feel and different positions to put your hand that is more comfortable to me, the spoke across the top is sloped and feels better on the wrist than the straight stock one. The minor problem is that the high beam is a little harder to engage/disengage since the base is wider and it touches the stalk when you pull it up. |
syncrodoka
I just bought a 93 Eurovan steering wheel and have not installed it yet on my 87 Syncro camper but I was wondering is it possible to put a thin washer under the steering wheel before you mount it to the column so that the high beam switch will work better? _________________ 1965 Ottinger Tribute Overland Bus
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svenakela Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2006 Posts: 776 Location: Ekerö
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:42 am Post subject: |
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Eurovan -92. Bolt on.
Found out that the slip ring for the horn was worn out on the original wheel, so the upgrade had a bonus steering column renovation effect. |
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narendra.vw Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2013 Posts: 430 Location: Bangalore India
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:47 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for this thread & bringing it back. Since my van is now running with power steering, OE bigger dia steering wheel is very sensitive. so, I want to replace it for smaller dia steering wheel. |
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RBEmerson Samba Member

Joined: November 05, 2011 Posts: 1669 Location: No longer TX NM AZ NV CA UT - :(
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:15 am Post subject: |
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While reviewing this thread, an (I hope) interesting thought occurred to me. The replacement wheel suggested the notion of installing an airbag capable wheel. It's not the same as a full-on airbag system, of course, but has anyone ever tried this? I assume there are problems with the added wiring needed for the bag inflator, and adding the needed sensor(s). NTL, it might be a step forward in improving the odds for a survivable crash. _________________ Drunk is when you think you look sophisticated, but can't spell it. |
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Volkska Samba Member

Joined: October 07, 2013 Posts: 106 Location: Central Jersey
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:58 am Post subject: |
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Clean swap! Looks killer!  _________________ 2011 VW GTi 6MT (The Daily)
2003 Golf 2.Sl0w (The Flaming Turd)
1997 VR6 motor awaiting some love and a Vanagon
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RBEmerson Samba Member

Joined: November 05, 2011 Posts: 1669 Location: No longer TX NM AZ NV CA UT - :(
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:50 am Post subject: |
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r39o wrote: |
stevey88 wrote: |
I put in a steering wheel from an early Eurovan. |
I like it. Now I need to find a leather one. Wonder what a new one costs? I bought a new leather wheel for our A4 when we got it. It was $220 from VW. Emm.......
In the mean time, I am going to use a nice leather A2 wheel I got. I await the little special adapter......($11 shipped.) |
FWIW, I installed the leather cover from Van-Cafe. The thickness of the rim was too small for my big paws. I wanted more "heft" without a wheel transplant. The leather cover did the job exactly as I hoped for.
The big tip is to be very, very, very obsessive about pulling the stitching tight. Done right, the edges of the cover will meet and stay close to each other, even as the leather begins to setting in and pick up the contours of the bumps on the under side of the wheel.
And, of course, center the seam at the bottom of the rim. Once the lacing starts, there's little hope for adjusting the positioning. On the places where the cover goes over the spokes, try to use a lacing hole that's actually over the edge of the spoke. That way the cover will shape itself to the spoke, otherwise... well, it just doesn't look quite right with a somewhat loose flap over the spokes. YMMV, of course.
I can't comment on the change in wheel diameter when transplanting a wheel. Our Westy has power steering. Still, I'm glad for the extra diameter when doing tight K turns in a limited space. It makes getting the wheels around a little faster and easier, even when I let the van roll a bit (avoids scuffing and flatting the tread). _________________ Drunk is when you think you look sophisticated, but can't spell it. |
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Honuak Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2009 Posts: 393 Location: AK
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:22 pm Post subject: Eurovan to Vanagon steering wheel mod |
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I took the steering wheel off to fit a new column cover with thermometer in the seat heat slot as others have done. Much easier to fit the plastic column on with steering wheel off.
This shows the multi tool mod I made to the Eurovan wheel to prevent high/low beam wand interference. Cannot see it with wheel fitted. |
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syncrodoka Samba Member

Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 11473 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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When I swapped over to the curved style cruise control switch the issue went away.
I didn't mod anything. |
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Honuak Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2009 Posts: 393 Location: AK
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Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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designer wrote: |
sounds like defeating the purpose of a nice new modernish wheel install?
Pictures?
thanks
oh, and, was the 93 EV install a simple 24mm bolt off, switch wheels, 24mm bolt on or was there more to it (besides modifying for the brights?)
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Simple install. I don't have any pics but you cannot tell that the wheel is modified. Even if I pointed it out It's not a lot of material to remove and it cut clean/bevel with the multi-tool. You could use almost anything to cut it, soft-ish rubber/foam. IMHO its a big improvement from stock in terms of ergonomics. I could get some pics in daylight tomorrow. |
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designer Samba Member

Joined: November 05, 2009 Posts: 375 Location: Idaho-but just the tip
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Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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sounds like defeating the purpose of a nice new modernish wheel install?
Pictures?
thanks
oh, and, was the 93 EV install a simple 24mm bolt off, switch wheels, 24mm bolt on or was there more to it (besides modifying for the brights?)
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Honuak Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2009 Posts: 393 Location: AK
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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I put a 93' Eurovan wheel on my 87' and prefer the feel of it, more places to put the hands when driving, especially longer trips. But be warned that your high beams will not work without modifying (cutting) the Eurovan wheel. Not hard to do but easier prior to a full install. I found this out the hard way. And be sure to check that the stalk works when you turn the wheel. You end up cutting a good portion of the wheel to make it work. I used my go-to multi-tool but its soft rubber and cut easily. |
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syncrodoka Samba Member

Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 11473 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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They have a better feel and different positions to put your hand that is more comfortable to me, the spoke across the top is sloped and feels better on the wrist than the straight stock one. The minor problem is that the high beam is a little harder to engage/disengage since the base is wider and it touches the stalk when you pull it up. |
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davevickery Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2005 Posts: 2887 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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joetiger wrote: |
I just installed my Eurovan wheel. It's a little thicker than the manual wheel I had on before and little less diameter (so I'm back to losing the tops of the gauges) but it feels solid and looks good. I like it.
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Is the Eurovan wheel better, besides looks? I picked one up (93) at a Junkyard and comparing it to my 87 wheel, it appears to be the exact same diameter and height. It does look a little more modern, but is there a difference in driving comfort or anything else?
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joetiger  Samba Member

Joined: January 27, 2005 Posts: 4224 Location: denver
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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I just installed my Eurovan wheel. It's a little thicker than the manual wheel I had on before and little less diameter (so I'm back to losing the tops of the gauges) but it feels solid and looks good. I like it.
_________________ Joe T.
'86 NAHT Vanagon GL Syncro/ supercharged ABA 2.0
'85 928S
'19 Golf R
'02 Beetle GLS
"get metaphysical with it. if it's simply a means to get to and from places, it will let you down. if it becomes your zen, it can't fail you." -dabaron
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Team WorldTour  Samba Member

Joined: September 02, 2010 Posts: 2334 Location: Der Vaterland
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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I'm going to the wreckers today to find an early EV 'wheel that looks good. I would love to put the Golf 'wheel on, but I don't think I can get the spacer off bare-handed. I don't have a puller handy... _________________ 1990 Feldjäger Syncro AAZ
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Team WorldTour  Samba Member

Joined: September 02, 2010 Posts: 2334 Location: Der Vaterland
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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Bump. _________________ 1990 Feldjäger Syncro AAZ
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snoop Samba Member

Joined: June 22, 2007 Posts: 301 Location: SW Oregon
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Happy to report that an O-ring makes a dandy substitute for whatever that thingamabob is...nestles right into the annular space between the solid shaft and column housing. S'all good now. _________________ 87 Westy Camper |
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snoop Samba Member

Joined: June 22, 2007 Posts: 301 Location: SW Oregon
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Timwhy wrote: |
Had an issue with my steering collumn yesterday. Took the van out for a quick spin to give the battery a charge and I got as far as the end of the block. When I went left my wheel had alittle play in it. Up/down and left/right, then the horn started going off (great).
Went about 5 or 6 block and returned home. It was getting dark and there was no way to really get a good look at it. Got on the samba and PM'd Loogy. He responded with the perfect diagnosis the plastic sleeve had come up the collumn and the collumn now had some play in it.
This morning I went out before work and sure as Loogy said, that sleeve was up the collumn. Push it down and the collumn was tight. Problem is the new steering wheel doesn't go down far enough to put pressure on that sleeve so it happened again after I put everything back together.
So, remedy! I had to cut a piece if pvc pipe cuppling to bridge the gap between the wheel and the sleeve then put everything back together and see if it worked. It worked, Thanks Loogy! It was like you could see my steering collumn with such an accurate description of the problem.
On a side note while I had the collumn apart I replaced the ignition switch. Really easy 15 minute repair, what a difference that new switch makes. Just the feel of it tells me that the old one was on it's last legs.
Thanks goes out to Ben for the directions on that replacement. |
Encoutered the same symptoms this morning. Found this thread...thanks! In pulling the wheel and switch assembly to do the fix that Tim and Loogy describe I found what I think is a thrust ring(?), softish grey plastic thing located at the base of the spacer sleeve...its in real bad shape...pretty much toast actually. Sorry for the lousy picture...it's that greyish thing below the black spacer sleeve:
Does anyone know what this thing is (Bentley doesn't seem to mention it)? Or better yet, where to get one?
Thanks for any info!
Mike _________________ 87 Westy Camper |
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Timwhy Samba Member

Joined: January 01, 2009 Posts: 3728 Location: Maine
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:58 am Post subject: |
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Popsvan wrote: |
Thanks for the help on the spline adapter! Scored one from Ebay half price of dealer and should be here tomorrow. Can't wait to see if the adapter changes all the posted info on the shims?
Thanks,
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Pretty sure that adaptor will only make your wheel fit on the spline of the collumn.
If you are trying to get the blinker cancellation tab to work you still may have to shim
the blinker switch to make it work correctly. It's pretty easy to do this
and if there is a spacer on the collumn keeping it in place. The shims
will be needed, if not your collumn may be slightly loose or work it's
way loose.
That happened to mine when I did the swap. The damn horn kept sounding on each
and every turn, and the wheel felt loose. Put in another shim to keep
the collumn spacer in place and no more unwanted horn blowing.
Hope everthing comes together as planed!! _________________ '15 Audi A3 Quattro
'09 VW Tiguan (dead)
'87 VW Westy
'91 Tin Top
'90 Cabby
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