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deadeye Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2010 Posts: 10 Location: South Carolina
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:17 am Post subject: airbox drain hose |
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where does the drain hose for the fresh air box go to? Mine is missing and I want to replace it but I can't find where to route it to. |
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keifernet Samba Search & Rescue
Joined: May 11, 2002 Posts: 19395 Location: Samba Center for Behavioral Science
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:21 am Post subject: Re: airbox drain hose |
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deadeye wrote: |
where does the drain hose for the fresh air box go to? Mine is missing and I want to replace it but I can't find where to route it to. |
Beetle or 71 -72 super? |
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deadeye Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2010 Posts: 10 Location: South Carolina
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:56 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, 1970 Beetle |
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keifernet Samba Search & Rescue
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:58 am Post subject: |
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deadeye wrote: |
Sorry, 1970 Beetle |
From the bottom of the drain box there is a plastic lower "elbow" with mount hole that goes to a threaded stud on the body... the hose then runs from there out a hole down by the gas tank.
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flierbob Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2008 Posts: 538 Location: Silverdale WA
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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I have a 69 bug and it came with a huge thick tube that did not work well, I found a hose at Home Depot (black) and stretched it to fit with heat, onto the bottom of the air box and left it long enough to drain out the bottom below the pan after it exits through the hole by the gas tank. My air box did not have the elbow on the bottom or any other fittings.
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jlex Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2009 Posts: 2902 Location: NW Pennsylvania
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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I have a '70. The hole the hose gets routed to is pretty obvious. Is in the middle of the trunk just at the edge of the gas tank. First thing I did was to take off the old paper/foil hose and replace it w/ rubber hoses.
Look at the picture. I used about a 1' section of 3/4" hose to hook onto the bottom of the box, then about 4' of 1/2" hose that slipped into the 3/4" hose. (I think those were the right sizes; better double check). Anyway, make sure you have enough hose to drain water out onto the ground, not anywhere onto your frame. The hose comes out around the master cylinder area.
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mnussbau Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2006 Posts: 4589 Location: Central Maryland
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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I used 3/4" radiator hose, works perfectly.
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jlex Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2009 Posts: 2902 Location: NW Pennsylvania
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Mike: yeah, I started w/ the same size radiator hose, but tapered it down to half inch. In your pic, it looks like you ended it just after it goes thru the drain hole.... I would recommend the hose be extended all the way down so the water never hits your frame. Should have the hose long enough so it drains water directly to the ground. _________________ jlex.
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mnussbau Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2006 Posts: 4589 Location: Central Maryland
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Agreed, ideally the hose goes to ground. The only issue is the amount of clearance between the gas tank and the frame. _________________ Mike
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jlex Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2009 Posts: 2902 Location: NW Pennsylvania
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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That's why you want to taper it to 1/2 inch hose before it goes into the drain hole. I agree that 3/4" may not be a good fit. With half inch, mine goes over to the left side above the MC, then drains out behind the LF wheel. On your bug, though, it looks like you have two holes on either side of the 'Napoleon hat"... if it was mine, I'd think about running the hose directly thru one of those. Aim is to keep the water away from the frame.
I THINK it's half inch I tapered down to... maybe it's 5/8"... whatever fits directly into the 3/4" hose is what I used. No tape or anything else needed. _________________ jlex.
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Habs24x Samba Member
Joined: June 22, 2009 Posts: 321 Location: Manassas, Va
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:24 am Post subject: |
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I used a 3/4" clear vinyl tube from Lowes. It has a 5/8"Id which dosent fit the elbow. This can easily be solved by heating up some boiling water on the stove and put vinyl tube end in the water for 20 seconds or so and it will pop right on.
Ran it down past the frame head and out the hole opposite the master clyinder. I left a little hanging out and put a couple of tie wraps around it to keep the drain from getting pushed/blown back up the hole.
I used the clear because when I got the car the box,elbow and tube were all clogged with Pine tree needles and other assorted bits of nature.
No problems in clearing the tank the hose is pretty flexible. |
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mnussbau Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2006 Posts: 4589 Location: Central Maryland
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Habs24x wrote: |
I used a 3/4" clear vinyl tube from Lowes. It has a 5/8"Id which dosent fit the elbow. This can easily be solved by heating up some boiling water on the stove and put vinyl tube end in the water for 20 seconds or so and it will pop right on. |
I like that idea a lot. Probably do it this summer when I replace the fuel filter and fuel line under the tank...give me another excuse to pull the tank. _________________ Mike
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CarlIseminger Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:43 am Post subject: |
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Did the original hose go all the way past the frame? From what I can see, it just ended right there by the gas tank. I just used a clear tube from Lowe's and ran it to just past the entry hole. There wasn't a hose on mine, and the PO just let the water drain into the trunk.
In my mind, what difference does it make where it ends? If water is draining from the air box, it usually means it is raining, and if it is raining, the underside of the tank area is going to be getting wet too. |
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keifernet Samba Search & Rescue
Joined: May 11, 2002 Posts: 19395 Location: Samba Center for Behavioral Science
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:41 am Post subject: |
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CarlIseminger wrote: |
Did the original hose go all the way past the frame? From what I can see, it just ended right there by the gas tank. I just used a clear tube from Lowe's and ran it to just past the entry hole. There wasn't a hose on mine, and the PO just let the water drain into the trunk.
In my mind, what difference does it make where it ends? If water is draining from the air box, it usually means it is raining, and if it is raining, the underside of the tank area is going to be getting wet too. |
Original never did go much past 1" out of that hole if that. But the idea of running a hose further like the others have said won't hurt one bit and is a good idea. |
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Kramer79 Samba Member
Joined: December 21, 2017 Posts: 29 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:39 pm Post subject: Works great in case you need a air box hose idea... |
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Did this today! Worked perfect, coffee mug with hot water!
Habs24x wrote: |
I used a 3/4" clear vinyl tube from Lowes. It has a 5/8"Id which dosent fit the elbow. This can easily be solved by heating up some boiling water on the stove and put vinyl tube end in the water for 20 seconds or so and it will pop right on.
Ran it down past the frame head and out the hole opposite the master clyinder. I left a little hanging out and put a couple of tie wraps around it to keep the drain from getting pushed/blown back up the hole.
I used the clear because when I got the car the box,elbow and tube were all clogged with Pine tree needles and other assorted bits of nature.
No problems in clearing the tank the hose is pretty flexible. |
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alex857 Samba Member
Joined: December 26, 2010 Posts: 714 Location: Stuttgart/Germany
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:06 pm Post subject: Re: airbox drain hose |
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another example,
The hose is extended to the whole in the frame head plate on the passengerīs side to keep water away from the frame as well.
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The_Old_Guyyy Samba Member
Joined: July 25, 2021 Posts: 16 Location: AZ
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:17 am Post subject: Re: airbox drain hose |
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I have a 1971 super beetle and was curious what the route for the drain hose is. Unfortunately I am using a fresh air box instead of the blower that would usually be equipped to model. I am hoping this isn't an issue as this was all I could find. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help! |
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Maddel Samba Member
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The_Old_Guyyy Samba Member
Joined: July 25, 2021 Posts: 16 Location: AZ
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:22 am Post subject: Re: airbox drain hose |
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Thanks for the reply! What is the name of the piece that connects the fresh air box, to the rubber tube? I have the fresh air box and rubber tube but am missing the piece to connect them. Also is this possible to install the tube without removing the fuel tank? |
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67rustavenger Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 9756 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:10 am Post subject: Re: airbox drain hose |
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Air Box drain elbow,
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