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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:11 pm    Post subject: 54 Oval Tar Boards Reply with quote

I will probably need to pull the engine this spring to free up or install a new throttle cable which keeps sticking on the highway on a hot day (yes it does get hot in Canada in the summer Laughing) If so I plan on replacing the original tar boards which are getting pretty bad. The ones that cip carries
https://www.cip1.ca/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C24%2D111%2D898%2D805
are listed as 56-77. Is there much difference in a 54? Maybe just the routing of the wires? Anybody else carry them? I checked WW but didn't see them. Thanks for any help.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnhenry has an excellant page on how to make your own out of 30lb roofing paper..all it cost is a lil time and a lil mat'l
its all on page 17 in the bugshop 57 restro. check it out
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1954 tar board is firewall piece only, no sides
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My unmolested Jan '54 has it on the sides, ie 3 pieces in the eng bay, as did a clients mid '54.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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johnhenry has an excellant page on how to make your own out of 30lb roofing paper..all it cost is a lil time and a lil mat'l
its all on page 17 in the bugshop 57 restro. check it out


If you can find rolled roofing of similar thickness that does not have mineral applied to one side ("gravel") that is best. I have a roll of something close in my basement (Bitumen I think). The felt paper thing has held up well and looks great, but you'll need a lot of glue...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the suggestions. BTW mine left the factory on April 9, 1954 (so was being built on April 8 which was coincidentally my 5th birthday) and still had the original boards on back and sides when I bought it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually really like the Wolfsburg West ones.... they are paper in front of tarboard and look very clean when installed. The cheap ones always have this terrible waffle pattern on them (and not the CORRECT early waffle pattern). Here is my April '55 with the WW kit installed.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Careful buying the cip1 tarboard. Past couple times I bought it (german) the material just cracked. Bugcity in CT has a good tarboard for around the same price and does not crack. Nice and thick, and soft enough to get the spikes through.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

52HoffmanSplit,
Thanks, I had searced for 'tar boards' on WW's site but couldn't find them so after reading your post I dug out their paper catalogue, tried again and found them under 'sound absorber kit', #111813805, in case anybody else is looking. They do indeed look clean and smooth. I love this forum so much, so many knowledgeable, helpful people. Thanks all! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also before you install the tarboard don't forget to glue the hairy strips to the firewall. At least that's what they did in Wolfsburg.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought I'd ask here instead of opening a new thread. I just got the WW ENGINE SOUND ABSORBER KIT but it is not a direct fit. Must I cut it to fit? Or just bend it badly? It's a shame to ruin this nice brand new set. How do I go about installing it?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have your old stuff to use as a pattern?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D. Haviland wrote:
Do you have your old stuff to use as a pattern?


No, but the WW mats are sort of cut to shape. It's just not a direct fit - they are bigger than the areas to cover. Here's the link where you can see their shape

http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=111813805
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

glue? why dont you just heat it with a propane torch and press it togeather like a roofer would do
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have put new ones in two different cars and havent had to cut anything to fit. Maybe just the WW ones are that way?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well in the end I had to be a little creative and cut a piece off the side parts. It then fit wonderfully

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think those are installed correctly. The pointed side of the delta should be up toward the roof channel, and the cut off side matches the rear apron. Here is a video of one being installed. Skip to about 2:40 and you will see the side pieces being fit. I would correct this before you reinstall the engine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrWNSbEErl8
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

darn Shocked I could have sworn I tried it that way too but it didn't fit. I guess it's just too hard for Wolfsburg West to mark these L and R to avoid confusion Crying or Very sad

vw57drvr where were you when I first asked on this thread...

any idea howto glue those pieces back on?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The wiring harness runs BEHIND the tar board. You'll wanna fix this so the wiring doesn't get melted
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