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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50352
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Terry, you keep coming up with weak lame excuses for why this good idea won't work and you refuse to consider how easy it is to come up with solutions to what minor problems do exist. A 12 inch long 3/16 diameter bit could easily drill a hole in the fan hub while its installed in the van. I don't know if all fan hubs have the letters shown in the picture I posted, but for the ones that do, a hole drilled right through the letters will locate the hole very well for lubricating the bearings. For fan hubs that do not have the letters embossed on them, I am sure that some resourceful Samba member will come up with a flawless way to do it and pass his ideas on to the larger community. |
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snoop Samba Member
Joined: June 22, 2007 Posts: 351 Location: SW Oregon
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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Hiya volks folks,
Just another endorsement of Karl's generous and kindly offered fan maintenance technique...worked great on my van!
Not much to add re: procedure, would simply echo Karl when he recommended using a small LED headlamp or flexlight held over the air intake cowling to illuminate the location of the fan shaft and deprivation when he recommended an approximately 12" section of tubing placed over the little red tube that comes with WD-40 cans. I had to drill out the base of the nozzle from the WD-40 can in order to fit it to the silicon lube can's outlet tube so that I could use the little red tube with the silicon lube can, but all in all, it made it pretty easy to deliver the lube to the shaft and coupled with a little rubber cap over the cowling hole, I consider this a wonderful way to faciliate maintenance of function of an important system of my van (no rear heater...12" sub instead ).
THANKS KARL!!!
mike _________________ 87 Westy Camper |
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indytriple Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2009 Posts: 710 Location: Brownsburg, Indiana
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:34 am Post subject: |
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Put another one in the books. Squeak is gone in my passenger van. Used Boeshield T-9 to lube the bearing.
**EDIT**
After using Boeshield T-9, the fan began to squeak again about a week or two after. The T-9 is fantastic for lots of things, but I don't think the T-9 has enough penetrating properties for this application. I then lubed it with Aerokroil (one of the best things on the planet!) penetrating oil, and it has worked quietly ever since.
**END EDIT**
Ran the fan on low when applying to help pull lube in while spraying gently to avoid much overspray.
Forgive the poor quality of the pictures below. It's hard to get arthroscopic surgery pictures with a $200 digital camera.
Here's a picture of the hole with a blurry view of the motor bearing inside:
Here is a another view of the blower fan motor bearing looking through the hole:
I hung my camping LED headlamp over the edge of the sheet metal lip and aimed it towards the motor. This provided plenty of light for the surgery:
I do think that spraying lube indiscriminantly through the hole is a bad idea. To apply lube directly to the bearing I put two red plastic spray tubes together with a 1/2" length of sheathing from some 16 gauge wire I had laying around. This allowed me just enough length to touch the end of the spray tube to the bearing and apply it directly.
With one of the coldest, snowiest Decembers on record here in the frozen tundra, I'm sure glad that my fan is quiet. I was able to spend time with my family instead of pulling the dash. The motor in the Westy is toast, so I won't be able to avoid major dash surgery there. _________________ "See The Glass As Already Broken."
87 Vanagon Westy Auto Bostig
www.bluegrassbicyclecompany.com
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teej Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2010 Posts: 897 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:51 am Post subject: |
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Add one more successful operation to the tally. I did this too a couple days ago--worked great. Many thanks to Mr. Mullendore! I used a camping headlamp in the same manner as the previous post. Found a 1/2" hole plug at the local Ace hardware for 23 cents, so I drilled a 1/2" hole for the operation. A couple skinny coffee straws splinted with a bit of tubing made a perfect extension to the Triflow straw.
Did anyone else think it might work even better to locate the hole about 1-1/2" towards the driver? Like on the driver's side of the little vertical rib in the picture? To me it seems that would allow a little more diagonal approach with the straw and slightly better viewing and access of the bearing.
Small matter, it worked as described and I appreciate this tip very much! |
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Ahwahnee Samba Member
Joined: June 05, 2010 Posts: 9810 Location: Mt Lemmon, AZ
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Worms Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2009 Posts: 279 Location: Whangarei, New Zealand
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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Mine has alittle squeak every now and then.
I only use the van occasionally anyway.....
I'm a hospital biomed, I wonder if I could tell one of the OR's that their laproscopy tower needs a service... I could take VERY detailed photos then
It might involve being fired though....
I'd second the Wurth HHS - brilliant stuff - it goes in runny, and thickens to a good high pressure lube.
Allan. |
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wiartonallan Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2006 Posts: 165 Location: Wiarton Ontario Canada
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:33 am Post subject: |
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Another one for the list. My 86 Syncro had a heater blower that was U/S for a year or so. Never got around to the dash removal. Yesterday I tried Ken's method but no joy. No joy until I let it sit overnight. Today the blower is perfect on all speeds! Brilliant! _________________ wiartonallan
85 Westfalia/Bostig
18 Tigun
08 Frieghtliner Sprinter |
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buspor63 Samba Member
Joined: February 17, 2005 Posts: 1179 Location: Knoxville,TN Where America stops for gas
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 6:59 am Post subject: |
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I did it too. I just did the quick and dirty spray through the hole way. Mine oil of choice is Justice Brothers JB80, it did have an odor for a couple of days though......now it they was only a topical spray for the rear heater leak _________________ Imagine that, theres not an "h" in either Westfalia or Syncro? |
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?Waldo? Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2006 Posts: 9752 Location: Where?
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 11:15 am Post subject: |
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wiartonallan wrote: |
Yesterday I tried Ken's method but no joy. |
Who's Ken and how does his method differ from Karl's? |
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12115 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 11:20 am Post subject: |
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Perhaps Ken knoweth the frequency _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik?
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Ahwahnee Samba Member
Joined: June 05, 2010 Posts: 9810 Location: Mt Lemmon, AZ
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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I think Ken is the voice in Karl's head that comes up with these ideas. |
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BlackDogVan Samba Member
Joined: December 21, 2007 Posts: 855 Location: Vancouver Island
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Zeitgeist 13 wrote: |
Perhaps Ken knoweth the frequency |
_________________ Gone but not forgotten - 1991 Carat - AAZ transmogriffied to mTDi.
Still addicted, looking for Doka... |
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wiartonallan Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2006 Posts: 165 Location: Wiarton Ontario Canada
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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Ahwahnee wrote: |
I think Ken is the voice in Karl's head that comes up with these ideas. |
Actually Ken is Karl. The voice must be in my head...
Anyhow thanks Karl! _________________ wiartonallan
85 Westfalia/Bostig
18 Tigun
08 Frieghtliner Sprinter |
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SirIvor70 Samba Member
Joined: August 06, 2004 Posts: 66
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 3:47 am Post subject: |
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Another successful bearing lubrication via Karl's method.
Thanks Karl...much appreciated. |
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stumpy Samba Member
Joined: April 04, 2007 Posts: 181 Location: york, pa.
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:16 am Post subject: Lubing |
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Excuse me if my suggestion is not worthy, but what is wrong with drilling a Larger Hole or two so you can get a view of where the blower is?? You can close the hole with a couple of rubber gromets when you are through and have access for the future! |
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7757 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:29 am Post subject: Re: Lubing |
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stumpy wrote: |
...what is wrong with drilling a Larger Hole or two so you can get a view of where the blower is... |
deprivation did it...see his posts on p. 1 of this thread... _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
<EDITED TO PROTECT INNOCENT PIXELS> |
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50352
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: Lubing |
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stumpy wrote: |
Excuse me if my suggestion is not worthy, but what is wrong with drilling a Larger Hole or two so you can get a view of where the blower is?? You can close the hole with a couple of rubber gromets when you are through and have access for the future! |
I used a 1 1/4 holes saw, one hole for each bearing. I just siliconed pieces of plastic over the holes when I was done. |
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erdonline Samba Member
Joined: September 26, 2004 Posts: 943 Location: CT
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: Lubing |
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Wildthings wrote: |
stumpy wrote: |
Excuse me if my suggestion is not worthy, but what is wrong with drilling a Larger Hole or two so you can get a view of where the blower is?? You can close the hole with a couple of rubber gromets when you are through and have access for the future! |
I used a 1 1/4 holes saw, one hole for each bearing. I just siliconed pieces of plastic over the holes when I was done. |
Can you tell/show where you drilled your holes? Was the one in the same place as most of the others' one hole?
Ed _________________ '85 Vanagon Westfalia
'84 Vanagon 7-passenger
'98 Mexican air-cooled Beetle |
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purplegodzilla Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2006 Posts: 253 Location: Duluth, Georgia
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:30 am Post subject: |
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Oh wow, it works. I blasted PB blaster inside (can't really see it well but in the vincinity) and waited for about 10 minutes. Turned the fan on and I can hear it kicks in. Turned it off and sprayed again. It is running smooth now. I am so glad this works. Poped in a plastic cap from home depot and it sits flush with the hole. I drilled a 5/8 hole with the stepper drill from harbor freight.
_________________ 1995 Eurovan Camper (SOLD)
1971 Westfalia (SOLD)
1991 Westfalia (SOLD)
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o292/purpleGORILLA/P1020720.jpg
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campism Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2007 Posts: 4492 Location: Richmond VA
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:41 am Post subject: |
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Drilled a hole and sprayed blindly with PB. Works well enough for me. Great idea. |
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