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Björn Schewe Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2004 Posts: 633
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:52 pm Post subject: The Rometsch "Bähnle" |
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I think most of you know the famous green-white Beetletrain which is in Exibition at the Stiftung AutoMuseum in Wolfsburg. This train was built by Rometsch in Berlin – the trailer was made by a coachbuilder named “Harmening” of Bueckeburg – a nice small city in the neighbourhood of Hessisch Oldendorf.
The Wolfsburg train was used for guided city tours through Wolfsburg – not for factory tours as most of the people think. What the people don’t think too it, that the car was not the onliest train Rometsch built. An Island in the North sea had also two trains to transport Tourists through the interesting points of the island.
With the thankful help of Thomas Koenig from the famous Prototyp Collection in Hamburg, we fund another surviving example of these rare and unknown coachbuild Rometsches based on a Volkswagen beetle. After the island changed the train against a newer model based on a Suzuki-Jeep, the car was stocked in the fire department of the island – the plan was to modify the car and to use it as a fire fighting car.
Even on island, the times changes and so the car was stocked in the corner of the fire brigade. Until yesterday, when the car was picked up…
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qwerty Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2004 Posts: 338
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:23 am Post subject: |
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Bjoern,
I have always liked the one in the museum and had no idea that Rometsch made the car. Incredible news that another was found and brought to the famous collection in H-O!!! Congratulations to all!
Mark |
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oval56 Samba Member
Joined: July 21, 2003 Posts: 1309 Location: oktoberfest maintown
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:26 am Post subject: |
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cool & awesome find, but looks personal to me really strange the first care where i'm not thinking about lowering and that stuff _________________ www.oval56.com
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Undis Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2006 Posts: 1396 Location: Riga, Latvia & Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:37 am Post subject: |
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Cool find Bjoern!
Is it based on a convertible or did the builder make their own windscreen frame? Well, obviously the very top of the windscreen frame is different to Karmann...
Also, is it based on an early oval?
Looks like HO is quite snowed under _________________ Check out my Facebook page: Volkswagen Prototypes. |
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MDKG Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2008 Posts: 1088 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:34 am Post subject: |
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Extremely cool find! What year is it? What is the name of the island it was found? What happened to the trailer? Are you going to use it to take tourists through HO? |
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alanandi Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2003 Posts: 58 Location: bayreuth - germany
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Björn Schewe Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2004 Posts: 633
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:54 am Post subject: |
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The Tractor is based on a 1957 Oval Window. As you can see, the basement was a regular Sedan, the basic frame of the Windscreend is bades on a Convertible part.
The complete train was deilvered in 1958. Actually, the original trailers are not located, but it could be that they are still exicsting. Who knows. |
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coad Samba Scapegoat
Joined: September 12, 2002 Posts: 7552
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:41 am Post subject: |
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Very cool find. Congratulations.
It must have ridiculously low gearing to pull the cars, right? |
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Mr. Electric Wizard Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2003 Posts: 2846 Location: Smyrna, TN
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:44 am Post subject: |
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Hence him referring to it as a tractor, I guess.
Strong clutch as well. _________________ "Saying what we think gives us a wider conversational range than saying what we know."
~ Cullen Hightower
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Stonefish Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2004 Posts: 734
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:46 am Post subject: |
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wow... _________________ AC/BC (Air Cooled/Breakfast Club)
Historian and Archivist for the Pennsylvania Hill Climb Association
1965 Notchback SCCA/PHA prepared, 1966 Bus, 1968 Beetle, 1969 Bus, 1970 Squareback, 1971 Fastback, 1973 Thing, 1983 Rabbit LS, 1986 Cabriolet, 1987 Viper VW powered "A" Sports Racer, 1996 Harlequin Golf, 2001 Eurovan Weekender, 2003 Jetta Wagon, 2007 Passat 4Motion wagon. |
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usariemen Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2004 Posts: 1745 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:48 am Post subject: |
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I can see a nice shuttle service in the future between the camping ground
and the town in Hessisch Oldendorf. _________________ Master of my domain! |
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pbaptist Samba Member
Joined: January 02, 2005 Posts: 1205 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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Wow,
Just when I thought I know a lot about Romesch, this "new" type of Rometsch shows up. Great to add this to the Rometsch collection in HO.
What will be next
Goliat GP 700 coupe?
Fiat with Rometsch body
Borgward Hansa 1500 with Rometsch body
Opel Kapitan Coupe with Rometsch body.
Is there any chance that one of these (Non VW) Rometsches will be add to the Rometsch collection in HO?
Patrick _________________ Dutch Karmann-Ghia and coachbuild lover.
1* Karmann Ghia Coupe (1966 Teak)
2* Karmann Ghia Convertible (1958, 1971)
4* Rometsch Lawrence (nr 534, 555, 558 and 561)
Karmann-Ghia Lowlight page and registry
Karmann-Ghia Collectibles database |
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TimGud Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2002 Posts: 6459 Location: Rio Rico Arizona
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Any chance of buying the cars that originally went with the tractor? |
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vwovale56 Samba Member
Joined: June 10, 2009 Posts: 32 Location: montreal Quebec canada
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:03 am Post subject: nice collections |
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Björn
That is a very great collection you are joining this baby to. It looks like you have a great location to make them happy together.
Here in Canada they are less chances that we find those types of tresors!
jf _________________ Current 1975 str beetle
Formerly
Double Cab ( crew-cab ) 1970 Brasilian edition.
2x beetle 1956 rag top euro |
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Björn Schewe Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2004 Posts: 633
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:28 pm Post subject: Re: nice collections |
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vwovale56 wrote: |
Björn
That is a very great collection you are joining this baby to. It looks like you have a great location to make them happy together.
Here in Canada they are less chances that we find those types of tresors!
jf |
Thanks for the flowers- but please note that the Bähnle was bought and organized by Christian. I am just the mushroom-pig who sometimes have the luck to find the rarest of the rare stuff which normal couldn't exist. |
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peter schepens Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2003 Posts: 1014 Location: belgium Caesars camp
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 1:11 am Post subject: Re: nice collections |
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Björn Schewe wrote: |
please note that the Bähnle was bought and organized by Christian. |
As always...the same lucky guy. But he desirve it most.
Who else is putting together a collection in a collection...
Rometsch in VW's all rarest of rarest parts and cars.
Forget disneyland....I chose HO to visit.
about the trailers...If they are gone...I am sure Christian will show up with some original plans to hang on his door in the shop. The only problem is that his workshop will be to small.
Bjorn, I send you and Christian some picts. Did you get them? _________________ Zelensis, glassfibre body made in Belgium , disigned and built on a VW platform About 25 body's built.
Hebmuller info wanted for http://www.hebmueller-registry.com/home.html |
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Björn Schewe Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2004 Posts: 633
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:41 am Post subject: |
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After a few moments of cleaning an finishing, the Bähnle looks a little more better. Christian got in contact to one of the old drivers of the Bähnle. He told him some stories about problems with clutches and gearboxes so that they always had some new gearboxes on stock. The gearbox they used came from the split window bus with the reduction on both side. On an island without any Volkswagendealer or garages, it is always difficult to keep a car alive. The Bähnle was retired in 1968 and stocked since that time at the place where it was found. The driver is trying to find more information and has a couple of interesting old pictures of the historical car.
The Volkswagen Archive sais, that the car with was delivered in December of 1957 as a primered Standard model to the famous Volkswagendealer Eduard Winter of Berlin – the dealer where most of the beetles were delivered, which Rometsch used for their beautiful creations. December 1957? It was the time, when the beetles have their larger windows and the new styled dashboard. But the Bähnle is based on an oval window – how could that be? The answer is very simple: As most of you know, Rometsch had to buy complete beetles for their famous creations like the Beeskow Banana. Most of the non-used bodys were sold to repair shops to safe damaged cars. When the post 1957 beetle came on the marked, the price for the Oval window bodies felt down so that these bodies were used for the Bähnle. In reason of the style, it was not necessary which beetle body they used – and for the newer ones, it was easier to sell it for a good price.
The trailers were built by Harmening of Bückeburg. This company was bought by a famous coachbuilder for trucktrailers named “Kögel”. In the last years, Kögel build special bodies for the parcel service of the German Bundespost and special bodies for the technical rescue service in Bückeburg. After the German union, the german gouverment ordered that all official orders made by state organisations – like Bundespost or the Technical Rescue Service – have to be done in the new eastern parts of Germany. Without new orders, “Kögel” stopped their production at the old Harmening area and closed their location in Bückeburg. The good thing is, that Bückeburg is only a few mintutes to drive from Hessisch Oldendorf – and Christian’s Sister Esther is living there. On this way, it should not be a big problem to find more information and with a little bit of luck, it also should not be a big problem to get in contact with one of the old workers.
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Tanguy Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 19 Location: FRANCE
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: The Rometsch "Bähnle" |
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Hello !
Some news about this another Rometsch ?
Regards from France !
Tanguy |
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Herbie3Rivers Samba Member
Joined: May 07, 2001 Posts: 1271 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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Very cool find. I gotta ask though, what's the story with the Herbie in the back? _________________ Yeah I like Herbie AND New Beetles. Got a problem with it? Tough.
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kombicol Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2008 Posts: 212 Location: Perth Australia - Now in Texas y'all
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Wow,
Just when I thought I know a lot about Romesch, this "new" type of Rometsch shows up. Great to add this to the Rometsch collection in HO.
What will be next
Goliat GP 700 coupe?
Fiat with Rometsch body
Borgward Hansa 1500 with Rometsch body
Opel Kapitan Coupe with Rometsch body.
Is there any chance that one of these (Non VW) Rometsches will be add to the Rometsch collection in HO?
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