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GeoffP Samba Member
Joined: July 14, 2002 Posts: 400 Location: Blaine WA / Vancouver
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:28 pm Post subject: Orig Manx header Sidewinder questions.. |
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I also posted this on the Manx forums but I think there is more traffic here on the Samba soo here is go's...
As I restore my 68 Manx I have found slight differences in a few parts and was wondering if anyone can tell me a little about the Manx Header and Glasspack exhaust.
I have a Manx catalog from 69 and it shows the same exhaust as mine but the two differences I can see are that the two "J" pipes on the catalog version and the one I found on the samba both have a smooth radious. Mine has two bends in the "J" pipe (like a t3 jpipe). My question is, did the exhaust change over the years and roughly when? Mine is a small 1 3/8 diam pipe and also has a short glasspack.
Photo from the Samba, look at the smooth radious on the left of the pic (J pipe)
Mine with double bend J pipes (pic taken before I started to restore it)
I know that there is a 1 3/8 and 1 .5 size (as well I think the new ones are larger) Mine has the bolt on muffler and many others have a welded style. Anyone know more details? |
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nightmanx11 Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2007 Posts: 549 Location: Downstate Illinois
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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I know of three different versions of the Manx Sidewinder, and 2 different tube sizes. I thing the versions must be due to what vendor was the supplier at a given time.
I remember Bruce saying the tube size relates to the engine displacement.
Perhaps if we could compare one out of each lot, we would find even more small differences between each lot. |
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GeoffP Samba Member
Joined: July 14, 2002 Posts: 400 Location: Blaine WA / Vancouver
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Yes I was thinking that mine may have been intended for 12-1300cc engines. |
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LeeVW Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2006 Posts: 1016
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry to go off topic, but the first picture is MY picture. Someone must have downloaded it and put the Samba name on it. Oh well, I guess that's what you get when you post pix on the Internet!
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BL3Manx Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2006 Posts: 6767 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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Original Sidewinders did not have bolt on mufflers or sharp bends in the J tube. Neither pictured are are original (pre-1971) B.F. Meyers & Co. Sidewinders. The top picture appears to be a new Meyers Manx Inc. exhaust. The bottom exhaust was made by someones else.
B.F. Meyers & Co. produced different Sidewinders for 36hp engines, 40/50hp engines and Porsche 356 engines.
B.F. Meyers & Co. went out of business in 1971. The biggest change in Sidewinders occured when Meyers Manx Inc. started producing new Sidewinders in the late 90s. Since then there have different suppliers with a variety of detail differences and some with removable mufflers.
Other companies also produced "sidewinder style" exhausts. Tri-Mil still does |
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manxdavid Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2003 Posts: 1841 Location: David Jones, Anglesey, North Wales, UK. Manxclub #678.
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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I've got old magazine ads from '69 showing a system identical to the one in the samba picture made by Mitchell Mfg Inc. of Alhambra Ca.
I'm not sure if they maybe supplied Meyers Manx and sold under their own name too or wether they just made a very similar system. |
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Ruska B1 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2007 Posts: 257 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:35 am Post subject: |
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This is my Manx with the original Sidewinder (1968). At that time $ 30.40
This is my new Sidewinder. Bought it July 2009 from Winnie Meyers.
Winnie told me to take the 1.5" because I have a 1600cc dualport.
1.5" Polished Hot-Jetted _________________ Gert
'68 Meyers Manx
'71 US Opel GT |
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LeeVW Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2006 Posts: 1016
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:51 am Post subject: |
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"The top picture appears to be a new Meyers Manx Inc. exhaust."
That's correct. I had purchased it from Winnie in 2002, which is when that picture was taken.
Lee |
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LouisB Samba Member
Joined: August 16, 2004 Posts: 1027 Location: Tallahassee, FL
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:29 am Post subject: |
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So the new new ones currently being sold by the Manx Club is a one piece affair?
--louis _________________ Louis Brooks
'67 Manx II
Old people at weddings always poke me and say "Your next." So, I started doing the same to them at funerals. |
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nightmanx11 Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2007 Posts: 549 Location: Downstate Illinois
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:56 am Post subject: |
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The 'style' offered by Meyers Manx, Inc. today is a 3 piece exhaust system.
2 J pipes and 1 collector with a welded on fiberglass muffler.
Available in 1 5/8" & 1 1/2" either in raw metal or polished ceramic coated.
For further information see: http://www.meyersmanx.com/mmstore/store-exhaust.shtml
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BL3Manx Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2006 Posts: 6767 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:09 am Post subject: |
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There is a discount for members, but its not sold by the Manx Club, its sold by Meyers Manx Inc. |
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lostinbaja Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2004 Posts: 4036 Location: Frankfort, Illinois
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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This is my chrome circa 1968 Manx Sidewinder.
_________________ Jerry...
If it's being towed, it must be a trailer!
"Vee Grow Too Soon Oldt Und Too Late Schmardt"
RIP Morgan
My photos
http://www.manxgallery.org/gallery/album92 |
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