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laneven28
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:54 pm    Post subject: Lowlight Horn Button Reply with quote

I own a '59 ghia vert that I'm currently restoring. The body is in great condition, but unfortunately many of the ghia-only original parts were stripped from the car years ago.

The car was built in October 1958 and I'm wondering if this car should have the metal "1958" horn button, or the plastic "1959" one? Was the change from metal to plastic based on production year or calendar year?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:28 am    Post subject: Re: Lowlight Horn Button Reply with quote

laneven28 wrote:
I own a '59 ghia vert that I'm currently restoring. The body is in great condition, but unfortunately many of the ghia-only original parts were stripped from the car years ago.

The car was built in October 1958 and I'm wondering if this car should have the metal "1958" horn button, or the plastic "1959" one? Was the change from metal to plastic based on production year or calendar year?


For October 1958, you need the metal one. But also the trim ring and even the steering wheel are different between the metal and plastic version.

I will have one complete restored steeing wheel for sale soon.
Currently I have four complete steering wheels at a steering wheel restoration shop. One is for the restore as a form of payment, one is for myself, one is already promissed to the person who bougth my 58 vert project car and the last one will be available.

As soon as I have them, you can found it in the classifieds

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great, thanks for the info Patrick. I've restored a few beetles and was assuming changes for the ghia were based on production year, but had started to question that assumption recently. Glad I asked before sending my '59 wheel off for restoration. I have 3 '59 wheels & horn rings, 1 OG plastic horn button & badge, and 1 repo horn button. Guess I can sell those off now.

I'll keep an eye out for your steering wheel - let me know when you're ready to sell.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure about that metal horn button being correct for October 1958? I have that the metal horn button was used up to chassis# 2 008 854.

My 1959 Cognac Coupe has the plastic style horn button and the vin is 2105XXX.

So it appears that the plastic hornbutton was introduced sometime in July 1958.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been doing further research on the samba and found another post that supports that date ghiagirl:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=175922

Looks like my ghia was possibly made the same day as yours. Within a day anyhow. The VIN on my ghia is 21052xx. That's good enough for me to conclude the plastic button is correct for my car. Thanks for the info.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must say I agree.... My July 4 1958 came with a metal button and I have always been lead to believe that 1958 was metal. My brother has a 1959 in totaly original shape.. its April of 1959 and it is Plastic.
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