Engine Lid Insulation

[19typethree67]

Any recommendations for the insulation on the engine lid? I saw this on Secondskin's website, looks pretty slick but it's 3/8" thick, the open cell foam motormat is 1/2" thick. Will this be too much? I took a measurement and it appears that there is about 1/4" to work with, wondering if this foam will compress enough when I put the clips in.

[Bobnotch]

Are you looking at using that on the bottom side of the lid or the top? If the top, I don't see a problem. On the bottom, I'm not too sure I'd use it, due to it being a rubber based foam. The original material was a fiberglas batting like material, that is basically fire resistant, covered in thick aluminum foil. Right now, there are several people looking for a replacement for the foil, as that's what normally goes first. If anybody has a good solution, I'd like to hear it, as my own car could use a replacement foil section. I have thought about that insulated fiberboard stuff, but there's no way I'd use up a 4 by 8 foot sheet.
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[pedro sainz]

i got this IDEA from Lee Hedges

Home Depot sells wrap around insulation for Water heaters
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62 T34 Cabriolet Prototype
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[sharkskinman]

home depot
insulation s
that looks like bubble wrap with aluminum foil
get some aluminum tape and it will work fine
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[pedro sainz]

[Bobnotch]

[reay]

This is a bit pricey, but it works (and looks) really good

http://www.bmpdesign.com/product-exec/product_id/1207/search_year/1985/search_model/22

This enough for two engine lids.
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Tom Reay

Da weiss man, was man hat!

68 Karmann Ghia Sunroof / auto T345
66 Standard Microbus T221
66 1200a Standard 115 with factory ragtop

[t3kg]

[pedro sainz]

[19typethree67]

[Ottonotch]

O.K. mine has nothing on it at all,maybe removed by p.o.? its clean and just painted black. Wasnt sure if its really needed,but sounds like its a must.Home Depot variety looks good to me.
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'63 gulfblue notch
'67 13 window deluxe

[reay]

I was a little skeptical of water heater insulation, just because of the temp rating - maybe 140 degrees?
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Tom Reay

Da weiss man, was man hat!

68 Karmann Ghia Sunroof / auto T345
66 Standard Microbus T221
66 1200a Standard 115 with factory ragtop

[MOCHABILL]

Under my engine cover all the fiberglass had fallen into the engine,it was every where! I just applied the Dyna-mat plus to the under side.

The topside is still the OG cardboard,just cleaned off all the greasy buildup and sprayed on clear coat Krylon,looks like new,almost!

Bill
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'71 Squareback FI

'07 Passat wagon 2.0

'03 Ranger 4door 4.0

[W1K1]

I bought a big roll of this

http://www.lobucrod.com/

Check out the fire test and the testimonials.
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1973 super
1965 squareback 1500E
1971 bay window westy- subi swap

[localboy]

http://www.jcwhitney.com/Heat_Sound_Insulation?ID=12;0;0;0;100001;ProductName;0;0;0;0;2010475;0;0

I used this with spray glue. Worked great and the original clips worked. It's enough for probably two lids.
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Black '65 Resto-Custom S Notch 2110 cc powered
original paint Pearl White '66 Westy SO-42
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[Bobnotch]

[localboy]

http://www.mcmaster.com/#thermal-insulation/=5wk25w

One option Bob; alum foil backed insulation half way down. .033" thick.
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Black '65 Resto-Custom S Notch 2110 cc powered
original paint Pearl White '66 Westy SO-42
Allstate single-wheel trailer project

[nodrenim]

I made a new cover for the insulation on my sqb from aluminum flashing used by roofers and contractors. It comes raw or painted, true you may need to flatten it as it comes in a roll, but golly-gee whiz it sure does work good and will not bankrupt anyone. Just my 2 pennies! Good luck!

[Lee Hedges]

Here's the engine lid restoration for a 1963 T34 Coupe that I did for about $25 via the Home Depot aluminum insulated roll. The roll did two engine lids and doesn't look at all like bubble wrap. The only difference from original is this pattern is a square while the original is a diamond. Spray glue over the edge for the 1963-64 models and tucked inside the lip for 1965-69 models. Silver/aluminum spray paint for the handles & clips gives the "new look" again and is very easy to do. The whole process took less than two hours.

[19typethree67]

Finally got mine done a few weeks ago. Checked out the stuff from Home Depot and I was a bit disappointed. Mostly because it was like 20 or 30 feet long and since I only had to do the one lid, it seemed like a bit of a waste.

Decided on this stuff from Second Skin. Two layers of foil w/ the insulation/sound deadener in the middle.

Really like it so far, I think it quieted the engine noise a little from the inside.