What did I do wrong with my swing-axle conversion?

[kidosteele]

ok i just did a swing axel conversion and belived to be 2 clicks up on the spring plates... but the bus looks higher then when it still had RGB's?

what could be wrong here?

will post pics in the moring...

any help is great thanks

[zao]

Did you index them the correct way? Sounds like you need to go the opposite way you did. Or you need to index the inner splines, too.
Hard to say without a whole lot of information to go on.
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[Busryder]

[kidosteele]

i moved the spring plate up.. it sits about a half inch above the bottom of the torsion bar mount..


how would i index?

thanks

[Busryder]

Still waiting on those pix...

But without them, the question "is the rear under load when you make the height judgement?" comes to mind, (i.e., with the motor in).

And I am curious as to which end of the torsion bar did you "click" up two splines.

Still, it's rather difficult to nail down your problem without them pictures Kid-o-Steel .

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[ToolBox]

Is the motor installed?

Have you driven it around to let the suspension settle?

[kidosteele]

ok here is what is looked like atfer 2 clicks up on the outters..

and yes it has motor, full camping interior, and about 8gals on gas

sorry dont have any pics of it on the ground..

[kidosteele]

this it now after messing around all day..

i guess the PO adjusted the torsion also..

this is it now

[roberto]

In my experience, a good place to start is indexing the spring plate to 6 degrees. like in this pic, using an angle finder located on the og uncut portion of the spring plate. Ofcourse the bus needs to be level from start. this will give you a real close balance to 3 1/2" dropped spindles. If you are adjusting your beam lower, you would need less angle.

[420GOAT]

looks about right.
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[Soul Built]

Sometimes it takes a bit for them to settle after you make adjustments. I usually drive around the block before I decide whether it is low enough

[kidosteele]

ok i have one more question for you guys...

on the brakes i used 68 beetle brakes and i was wondering if i can use thing drums... so i dont have to use the 4 to 5 adapters?


thanks

[cdennisg]

[hudman]

Thing drums, you need the better stopping power than bug pads.
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[cdennisg]

It is my understanding that thing drums do not use wider shoes, only that the drums are wider. Therefore, no added stopping advantage. If you want better stopping power, install a late (68& up) front wheel cylinder in there, or use type 4 drums and adapters.
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[zao]

I am running Thing drums in the rear and also later cylinders and super beetle shoes. I believe they are super beetle anyways. Really no huge difference in the shoe sizes. Most of the stopping power is in the front anyways.
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[Teeroy]

The Thing drums are about 1/4" wider than 4 lug bug drums and the wide 5 adapters, so make sure you have enough room. I just put a set on my 65 Micro, yes shoes and wheel cylinders are the same size as the 68 up bug. I ended up putting super front wheel cyls (23mm instead of 17mm)same as type 3 also, on and brakes are much better now.
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[cdennisg]

I have seen some different thicknesses in the 4-5 lug adapters, too. Either 3/8" or 1/2". That will make a difference.

In the first lowered bus I built I did not know about the need to use late beetle front wheel cylinders. The brakes sucked. A friend enlightened me, and what a big difference it made.
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[kidosteele]

thanks everyone..