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stale air Samba Member
Joined: August 23, 2007 Posts: 5148 Location: Senoia Ga, formally NorCal
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:45 pm Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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Darrin900 wrote: |
Looking for wheel colors for a 1958 Capri blue beetle. Ww says L82 silver white and L336 deep blue. Does that sound right? I’ve read L87 pearl white also. Also any help on formulas for those colors would be great thank you |
Yup, those are the correct colors for Capri.
Sorry cant help ya on the formulas though. _________________ WANTED: Henry Veale Santa Rosa plate frames
WANTED: Brittsan Motors Fresno plate frames
WANTED: Any Georgia plate frames
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Darrin900 Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2013 Posts: 16 Location: Williams az
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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So silver white/deep blue it is. They only used fjord blue in 59 correct? I don’t have a birth certificate yet but I think the car is Capri. Thanks stale air |
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RichOakley Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2004 Posts: 1108 Location: Midlands, UK
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:20 am Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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Garnet
_________________ 1947 Beetle
1956 RHD Karmann Cabrio
1956 RHD Beetle
1957 RHD Pitt-Moto Type 2 Camper
1959 RHD Beetle
1966 RHD Type 3 Fastback
1976 RHD Sun Beetle |
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RichOakley Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2004 Posts: 1108 Location: Midlands, UK
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:22 am Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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_________________ 1947 Beetle
1956 RHD Karmann Cabrio
1956 RHD Beetle
1957 RHD Pitt-Moto Type 2 Camper
1959 RHD Beetle
1966 RHD Type 3 Fastback
1976 RHD Sun Beetle |
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RichOakley Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2004 Posts: 1108 Location: Midlands, UK
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:25 am Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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Same car in 1966...
_________________ 1947 Beetle
1956 RHD Karmann Cabrio
1956 RHD Beetle
1957 RHD Pitt-Moto Type 2 Camper
1959 RHD Beetle
1966 RHD Type 3 Fastback
1976 RHD Sun Beetle |
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RichOakley Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2004 Posts: 1108 Location: Midlands, UK
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:26 am Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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Same car, late 1970s..
_________________ 1947 Beetle
1956 RHD Karmann Cabrio
1956 RHD Beetle
1957 RHD Pitt-Moto Type 2 Camper
1959 RHD Beetle
1966 RHD Type 3 Fastback
1976 RHD Sun Beetle |
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stale air Samba Member
Joined: August 23, 2007 Posts: 5148 Location: Senoia Ga, formally NorCal
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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Darrin900 wrote: |
So silver white/deep blue it is. They only used fjord blue in 59 correct? I don’t have a birth certificate yet but I think the car is Capri. Thanks stale air |
No prob, and yeah fjord is 59 only. _________________ WANTED: Henry Veale Santa Rosa plate frames
WANTED: Brittsan Motors Fresno plate frames
WANTED: Any Georgia plate frames
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24733 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:23 pm Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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iamdonquixote wrote: |
question:
will a stewart warner gas heater for a 61-64' bug work on 58'-59' ? Anyone have pictures of various gas heater installs on their 58-59?
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Well almost anything can be made to work. EG installing a type 4 engine in a beetle is real easy by cutting some of the rear body off.
Plus like radios, the S&W heater were for the most part a dealer installed accessory. So a VW that was traded back into a dealer sometimes got accessories added at that time to sweeten the used car deal. That way someone that could not afford a new VW with no frills, could get a used VW with the big buck options they desired. Also once someone paid off their VW, the next month they had that chunk of extra money that they could then go to the dealer to get the option/s installed. We have an early 1960s all transistor radio instructions for installing in an oval window beetle due to this affect.
Take a gander thru the "Heaters and Air Conditioning" that you can access thru the Technical button above on the right. Especially the 1960 manual.
We have a 1959 beetle that seems to be pretty original, that has an Eberspacher heater that was probably dealer installed. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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consvws Samba Member
Joined: April 07, 2009 Posts: 950 Location: Roseburg, OR
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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does anyone have a good picture of what a Canadian standard interior would look like for a diamond grey beetle?
My birth certificate doesn't show interior color, and the car was gutted when i got it. Also, any good sources for the material?
Thanks, Conrad |
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sunroof Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2006 Posts: 1772 Location: Winnipeg
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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This looks like a light bronze car. A diamond grey car would have had a red interior, so picture this in red with brown basket weave.
Don _________________ Better and better mistakes! |
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consvws Samba Member
Joined: April 07, 2009 Posts: 950 Location: Roseburg, OR
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:54 pm Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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nice! any good sources for red/brown material?? |
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flyboy161 Samba Member
Joined: December 26, 2009 Posts: 2091 Location: Perry, GA
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Alexg40 Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2017 Posts: 1 Location: Bridgend, wales
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:56 am Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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Here is a few recent photos of mine - Built 16th October 1957 with all matching numbers and panels, imported from Sweeden last year but I couldnt help myself and decided to hit it with the lowering stick..
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jvm Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2007 Posts: 20 Location: Brisbane
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:18 am Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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RichOakley wrote: |
Same car in 1966...
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RichOakley wrote: |
Same car, late 1970s..
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Hey Rich, they are cool photos. Its great to see a cars history and it was obviously was part of family for a long time.
All original?
Can you post some interior photos please? |
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MeeferMadness Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2004 Posts: 305 Location: Eugene Oregon
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:40 pm Post subject: Locating a period correct regulator |
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I am in the process of restoring a Euro rag (Oct 58 build). I have been cruising the classifieds for an Oct 58 voltage regulator ( or close to that date). I read a previous post on Bosch date codes
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This information has been posted on the site at various times but not in a specific thread so here is the information for reference and use in FAQs.
As many of you know, various parts used on Volkswagen and other vehicles were date-stamped by the original parts manufacturers. Due to production lead times, these date stamps typically preceded the manufacture date of the vehicle by 1 or more months.
Bosch
Parts are stamped with a 2 or 3-digit sequence.
From 1920-1963, the format was 1 or 2 numeric digits, then an alpha character.
The first 1 or 2 digits are the month, 1 through 12.
The last digit, a letter, is the year.
I was not used as they are too similar to the month digits.
For 1945-1963, O was also not used for the reason above.
From 1920-1944, the following apply:
A=1920 B=1921 C=1922 D=1923 E=1924 F=1925 G=1926 H=1927 J= 1928 K=1929 L=1930 M=1931 N=1932 O=1933 P=1934 Q=1935 R=1936 S=1937 T=1938 U=1939 V=1940 W=1941 X=1942 Y=1943 Z=1944
For 1945-1963, the following apply:
1945=A, 1946=B, 1947=C, 1948=D, 1949=E, 1950=F, 1951=G, 1952=H, 1953=J, 1954=K, 1955=L, 1956=M, 1957=N, 1958=P, 1959=Q, 1960=R, 1961=S, 1962=T, 1963=U
Example: 8M would be August, 1956:
For 1964-1969, Bosch used a 3-digit numbering scheme. The first digit is the last number of the year. The second 2 digits represent the month.
Example: 401 would be January, 1964.
For 1970-79, Bosch continued using a 3-digit numbering scheme but the months were numbered 21-32. In addition, 33-36 were used for the 4 quarterly periods. 33 = Jan.-March, 34 = Apr.-June, 35 = July-Sept., 36 = Oct.-Dec.
Examples:
021 = January, 1970
932 = December, 1979
436 = 4th quarter, Oct.-Dec., 1974
Bosch documents, thanks to hazetguy:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=675476
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=675477
Bosch chart from 1960-onward, thanks to glutamodo:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=1167254
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I do not know where to find the date stamps and am somewhat confused from the pictures some of the sellers are sending me. For example the picture below shows an "S31" which does not seem to match any of the codes listed in the article. So where can the date stamp be found and help in reading it. Please Help! Thanks
Bruce
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Stephan Schmidt Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2002 Posts: 213 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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Picking up a 1958 Canadian Custom (standard) soon and its missing all of the fenders, fuel tank, ignition switch and bumpers.
I know whats correct for the bumpers, but what about for the fenders?
Fronts - are 1958 and 1959 the same? If I were to only find later fenders, would the 59 fenders be made correct with the addition of the wiring tube below the headlight bucket?
Rears - I believe these are all the same from 1956-1959 with the ribs - correct?
Fuel tank - is it the same from 1956-1960?
Ignition switch - same for 1958-1967??
Thanks for the help! |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24733 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:28 pm Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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Stephan Schmidt wrote: |
Picking up a 1958 Canadian Custom (standard) soon and its missing all of the fenders, fuel tank, ignition switch and bumpers.
I know whats correct for the bumpers, but what about for the fenders?
Fronts - are 1958 and 1959 the same? If I were to only find later fenders, would the 59 fenders be made correct with the addition of the wiring tube below the headlight bucket?
Rears - I believe these are all the same from 1956-1959 with the ribs - correct?
Fuel tank - is it the same from 1956-1960?
Ignition switch - same for 1958-1967??
Thanks for the help! |
Most if not all of that info should be in the "Beetle FAQ and 1958-1967 Beetle Info available on TheSamba " at the top of the forum. Check there first. See that there is two threads about fenders. If you have more questions about fenders those those two threads are a great place to post more questions.
Also do try searches for info like this. For your ignition switch tried a search for "1959 ignition switch" checked the "titles only" box and only got one result. So tried reducing it down to just "ignition switch" and got these results:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/search.php?searc...=titleonly
About the ninth result looks promising. If you add the key code from there to the "ignition switch" search you can reduce the results way down from 3 pages. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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Stephan Schmidt Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2002 Posts: 213 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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Eric&Barb wrote: |
Stephan Schmidt wrote: |
Picking up a 1958 Canadian Custom (standard) soon and its missing all of the fenders, fuel tank, ignition switch and bumpers.
I know whats correct for the bumpers, but what about for the fenders?
Fronts - are 1958 and 1959 the same? If I were to only find later fenders, would the 59 fenders be made correct with the addition of the wiring tube below the headlight bucket?
Rears - I believe these are all the same from 1956-1959 with the ribs - correct?
Fuel tank - is it the same from 1956-1960?
Ignition switch - same for 1958-1967??
Thanks for the help! |
Most if not all of that info should be in the "Beetle FAQ and 1958-1967 Beetle Info available on TheSamba " at the top of the forum. Check there first. See that there is two threads about fenders. If you have more questions about fenders those those two threads are a great place to post more questions.
Also do try searches for info like this. For your ignition switch tried a search for "1959 ignition switch" checked the "titles only" box and only got one result. So tried reducing it down to just "ignition switch" and got these results:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/search.php?searc...=titleonly
About the ninth result looks promising. If you add the key code from there to the "ignition switch" search you can reduce the results way down from 3 pages. |
Thanks for the reply! I appreciate it! |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24733 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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Stephan Schmidt wrote: |
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Thanks for the reply! I appreciate it! |
Glad to help!
Please do Pmail us when (not if) you start a thread on your old bug!! Would be great to see it go back together again. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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Stephan Schmidt Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2002 Posts: 213 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:32 am Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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Would the original fender from a 1961 Beetle match the contours which are correct for a 1959 beetle except for the wire tube?
I'm able to purchase wire tubes from klassic fab, so if the fender where the headlight bucket and where it meets the running board are the same, then I could make a pair work that I've found.
Thanks for the help! |
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