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stale air Samba Member
Joined: August 23, 2007 Posts: 5151 Location: Senoia Ga, formally NorCal
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 11:03 pm Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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👆 Wow, nice find. Coral is a great color. Congrats! _________________ WANTED: Henry Veale Santa Rosa plate frames
WANTED: Brittsan Motors Fresno plate frames
WANTED: Any Georgia plate frames
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sunroof Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2006 Posts: 1773 Location: Winnipeg
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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What parts are you looking for?
Don _________________ Better and better mistakes! |
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pbenn Samba Member
Joined: November 21, 2007 Posts: 375 Location: Toronto
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MeeferMadness Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2004 Posts: 305 Location: Eugene Oregon
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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Using SEM color matched vinyl spray I was able to stretch the old vinyl over the newly made door cards (I let the vinyl set in the warm sun for an hour). I got a nice blue/grey color match from under the armrest. The blue was matched to Lenny Copp seat covers. I am over the moon with the results! Now on to the drivers door panel!!
Bruce Ebling
Oct 58 Euro Rag
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69820 Location: Phoenix Metro
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stale air Samba Member
Joined: August 23, 2007 Posts: 5151 Location: Senoia Ga, formally NorCal
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 10:21 am Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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MeeferMadness wrote: |
Using SEM color matched vinyl spray I was able to stretch the old vinyl over the newly made door cards (I let the vinyl set in the warm sun for an hour). I got a nice blue/grey color match from under the armrest. The blue was matched to Lenny Copp seat covers. I am over the moon with the results! Now on to the drivers door panel!!
Bruce Ebling
Oct 58 Euro Rag
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Yeah, that looks great! Nice work. _________________ WANTED: Henry Veale Santa Rosa plate frames
WANTED: Brittsan Motors Fresno plate frames
WANTED: Any Georgia plate frames
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sunroof Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2006 Posts: 1773 Location: Winnipeg
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sunroof Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2006 Posts: 1773 Location: Winnipeg
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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My ultra-rare Canadian custom sunroof got $7200 and will go to Texas. Well bought Scab60!
Later: Scab60 reneged on the deal, said he didn't want the car. One of the pitfalls of auctions I guess.
Don _________________ Better and better mistakes! |
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Ruger59 Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2016 Posts: 54
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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My VW addiction got the better of me today. I couldn't resist this beautiful black 58. It's a numbers matching body and pan with ribbed rear fenders and a four tab hood. Unfortunately it's missing the front fenders, passenger door and deck lid along with a couple other items.
The fenders might be rusty, but I think I can save them.
Near perfect front clip.
Still has it's one year only ash tray!
And a photo of my 59 in which I'm currently rebuilding the original power train. _________________ Current Volkswagen's:
*An all original 1959 capri blue beetle nicknamed Ruger
*White 1970's Vert Baja Bug |
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MeeferMadness Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2004 Posts: 305 Location: Eugene Oregon
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:34 pm Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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I recently finished restoring my blue/grey door panels for my euro 59 beetle (see earlier post). I had some blue/grey SIM vinyl paint made up to match the area on the door panel that was behind the armrest. I feel I got a right on match. Anyway the reason I am mentioning this is that I have enough left over to do another set of panels and if anyone out there could use the paint I would be happy to help them out.
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bwaz Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2004 Posts: 1780
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:52 am Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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I was doing some work on my front bumper and trying to update a few of the pieces. What I noticed on what looked to be my original August 57 bumper was the bolts that hold the towel bar to the blade have 17mm. heads as opposed to the two other bars I had, one with 14mm bolts, the other 13mm? I assume those got smaller bolts as they got newer and this is unique to early 58 models? |
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Stephan Schmidt Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2002 Posts: 213 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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I just received my birth certificate from VW and noticed that my car (a 1959 Canadian custom) is painted L344 Reed green...according to the certificate.
I was assuming L14 Mignoette Green was correct.
Were the Deluxe cars L14 and the Canadian Custom (aka standard) cars L344?
Because its a Canadian model car, it has hydraulic brakes (not cable like the euro cars), chrome bumpers, etc..
Maybe the birth certificate is incorrect because it also says that my car came with a 30hp engine (not a 36hp), but then it says sold into Canadian market which is correct because it was purchased new at Pacific Volkswagen here in Vancouver BC.
I'll post a picture of the certificate tonight. |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24757 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 4:47 pm Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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30 metric BHP is same as 36 SAE BHP. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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Stephan Schmidt Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2002 Posts: 213 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:34 pm Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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Eric&Barb wrote: |
30 metric BHP is same as 36 SAE BHP. |
ahh, never thought about it! Thanks! |
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sunroof Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2006 Posts: 1773 Location: Winnipeg
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:36 am Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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Hi Stephan! It is likely a mistake unless it was special ordered which is VERY unlikely. I've looked at your pictures and it sure looks like L14 to me.
Don _________________ Better and better mistakes! |
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Stephan Schmidt Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2002 Posts: 213 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:51 am Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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sunroof wrote: |
Hi Stephan! It is likely a mistake unless it was special ordered which is VERY unlikely. I've looked at your pictures and it sure looks like L14 to me.
Don |
Yah, thats what I was thinking...Check out what this guy wrote here --> https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=695794 |
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sunroof Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2006 Posts: 1773 Location: Winnipeg
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:50 am Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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I've seen this car in person. WOW! He and I are friends on f*book and had a long chat about our cars. I could send you an ash tray for comparison or even a glove box door. Come to think of it I have lots of bits and pieces you could use to compare. Let me dig through my stash.
Don _________________ Better and better mistakes! |
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sunroof Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2006 Posts: 1773 Location: Winnipeg
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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The British Car Club of Manitoba had an event called "Drive My Car" where people bring out their cars and we all swap and everyone gets to drive everyone elses car. Great fun. As you can see the turnout was low but we all had a good time. My 1959 Volkswagen Canadian Custom sunroof was the hit of the party. Everyone loved it. People were amazed at how easy it is to drive and what a good little car it is. I even had a inquiry about price. Of course it's a great car - they only sold 25,000,000 of them!
Don _________________ Better and better mistakes! |
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Stephan Schmidt Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2002 Posts: 213 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:13 am Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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sunroof wrote: |
The British Car Club of Manitoba had an event called "Drive My Car" where people bring out their cars and we all swap and everyone gets to drive everyone elses car. Great fun. As you can see the turnout was low but we all had a good time. My 1959 Volkswagen Canadian Custom sunroof was the hit of the party. Everyone loved it. People were amazed at how easy it is to drive and what a good little car it is. I even had a inquiry about price. Of course it's a great car - they only sold 25,000,000 of them!
Don |
That's such a fun idea! |
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Anduril Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2003 Posts: 88 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:15 am Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion |
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Kind of a necro from the first few pages of this thread but I thought I would throw one more set of variables regarding some of the areas identified as 58 or 59 items. This post originally used some images from other posters. I decided to take a few pictures with my 8 year old not fond of low lighting camera.
First off it's serial number is a 212XXXX putting it in the October '58 build range
The half moon stamp that goes over where the tie rods is stamped in on the 58 and out on 59.
The stamping for the 2 fuse block is stamped more the shape of the fuse block and more defined in 58 where 59 blends into the panel more towards the bottom.
The 58 was the last year for the made in West Germany tag below the VIN plate.
The 58 is the last year for the reinforcement plate that goes around the area the tie rods go through
In the image below we have the 2 ribs vs 3 and the "Made in West Germany" tag however the body number stamping above the tag is not there. Just some hashing.
There is also a "3" stamped above and slightly to the left of the steering box access cover.
The "Baujahr" as referenced by this poster box is empty on our car.
The drain tubes in the engine compartment are similar to this one with holes at the bottom.
Last but not least we have what is considered the '59 lower wheel well area. Does not surprise me since the it was probably built in the latter half of October and some newer parts were most likely available. There is one drain hole in the middle front of that area to go with the other 4 that are visible.
If this was all redundant to information provided earlier I apologize. I read through the first 102 pages yesterday and did not see this combination.
I did borrow the engine compartment view. It was getting late last night and I didn't feel like moving the lighting around in the garage. |
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