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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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derluftwagen wrote:
Looks like they are very similar to ovals

NOS Early 58/59 Bug Wiper Arms & Blades
Here we have a rare set of 2 early bug wiper blades and arms these are original Nos SWF. The difference on these is they take the small hole bases the same as an oval but the blade is a little longer for the larger windshield of a 58 .

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53-57 thin arm one piece design right and left designation
58-59 thin arm one piece design longer blades right left designation (both horizontal)
60-64 thick arm two piece design interchangeable designation



Wow, ya truly learn something new every day. Cool
I have never seen a post 57 bug with that style arm/blade on them.
Even my sitting next to a barn since 72 58 had the later style on it.
I bet as soon as the later cost saving style came out the earlier ones when the way of the dodo bird. Pretty cool stuff, thanks for gettng to the bottom of it. Very Happy
Btw, I do find it also interesting that the ones posted are black, and not silver. Eh? Repaint? For a standard?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

derluftwagen wrote:
Looks like they are very similar to ovals

NOS Early 58/59 Bug Wiper Arms & Blades
Here we have a rare set of 2 early bug wiper blades and arms these are original Nos SWF. The difference on these is they take the small hole bases the same as an oval but the blade is a little longer for the larger windshield of a 58 .

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Revised listing:

53-57 thin arm one piece design right and left designation
58-59 thin arm one piece design longer blades right left designation (both horizontal)
60-64 thick arm two piece design interchangeable designation


Now were getting somewhere... Very Happy So I wonder if the 58/59's used the same base as the 57's?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like they are very similar to ovals

NOS Early 58/59 Bug Wiper Arms & Blades
Here we have a rare set of 2 early bug wiper blades and arms these are original Nos SWF. The difference on these is they take the small hole bases the same as an oval but the blade is a little longer for the larger windshield of a 58 .

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53-57 thin arm one piece design right and left designation
58-59 thin arm one piece design longer blades right left designation (both horizontal)
60-64 thick arm two piece design interchangeable designation
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the PR listing

Agave looks to be correct about the one piece until 59. So does this mean 58 and part of 59 actually used oval arms?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=386293

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=407754

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53-57 thin arm/with one piece blade arm
58-59 thick arm right and left designation
60-64 thick arm with replaceable blade right and left interchangeable
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stale air wrote:

Im not an oval expert, but I believe that on the early ovals the blades/arms were one peice. But, all the later cars had replacable blades, removable from the arm.
The ones on my car I picked up some years back nos with the SWF stamp on them. My arms are the original ones that came on the car.


I have to get a set, as mine are long gone? I will have to look for either the SWF, or AVOG? I never did like the way the "Ovals" passenger wiper sat at an angle... Eh?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ya dont, the only difference is that originals will have SWF imbossed into where the blade slides onto the arm. Generic ones are not marked. Very Happy


Aren't the SWF wipers a one piece unit? I read that it wasn't till June 59 that SWF offered the blade and arm as seperate pieces?


Im not an oval expert, but I believe that on the early ovals the blades/arms were one peice. But, all the later cars had replacable blades, removable from the arm.
The ones on my car I picked up some years back nos with the SWF stamp on them. My arms are the original ones that came on the car.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ya dont, the only difference is that originals will have SWF imbossed into where the blade slides onto the arm. Generic ones are not marked. Very Happy


Aren't the SWF wipers a one piece unit? I read that it wasn't till June 59 that SWF offered the blade and arm as seperate pieces?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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derluftwagen wrote:
Has anyone mentioned the 58-59 only wiper arms? I have a set on my 60 but the replacement swf blades are the generic driver side and do not have the smaller passenger side blade. Anyone have any specific measurements for the blade?



How do you tell a wiper set up for a 58/59, versus the generic ones offered up to 64?


Ya dont, the only difference is that originals will have SWF imbossed into where the blade slides onto the arm. Generic ones are not marked. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Has anyone mentioned the 58-59 only wiper arms? I have a set on my 60 but the replacement swf blades are the generic driver side and do not have the smaller passenger side blade. Anyone have any specific measurements for the blade?

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Im not quite sure whats up with your passenger side arm, but it should not look like what you would see on an oval. I cant remember in what year the wipers parked in the other direction, but your passenger arm/blade almost looks like its supposed to park on the opposite side. Both of the blades should be the same length, and the arms should not only look the same, but while in the parked postiton should lay flat down at the bottom of the windshield. Here is a pic to show ya what I mean......

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derluftwagen wrote:
The passenger side is the only one that is different. The arm itself positions the blade at 11/5 o'clock while the drivers is horizontal.

For 60-64 both of the blades are horizontal.

Only on an oval......
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The passenger side is the only one that is different. The arm itself positions the blade at 11/5 o'clock while the drivers is horizontal.

For 60-64 both of the blades are horizontal.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

derluftwagen wrote:
Has anyone mentioned the 58-59 only wiper arms? I have a set on my 60 but the replacement swf blades are the generic driver side and do not have the smaller passenger side blade. Anyone have any specific measurements for the blade?
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How do you tell a wiper set up for a 58/59, versus the generic ones offered up to 64?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My '59 doesn't have the little metal strip. It looks EXACTLY like hootowls' though, only I've hammered most of the dents out (I can't get to the ones in the very corners though...).

How were the wiper arms '58/'59 only?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone mentioned the 58-59 only wiper arms? I have a set on my 60 but the replacement swf blades are the generic driver side and do not have the smaller passenger side blade. Anyone have any specific measurements for the blade?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice standard!! looking good!
Mine was delivered to MAHAG in Munich was well. in late october 58 though. I was trying to find out once if they still have information about those cars, but i they said they don't have...
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:59 am    Post subject: STANDARD SQUARE WINDOWS Reply with quote

I notice Sunroof's 1959 Canadian Sunroof Standard model. Does anyone else have an early square window standard model on here? Here is my German home-market May 1959 factory sunroof Standard model, delivered to Mahag in Munich and specially ordered in a colour from the Deluxe range available for that year, L14 Reseda Green, whereas Standards in Germany normally only came in L225 Jupiter Grey and L344 Reed Green. Took it to Hessisch Oldendorf last year and to Wolfsburg for its 50th anniversary.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hootowls wrote:
I don't know if this panel on my 59 is original or not. Looks like it's been around the block though.
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Mario brought this up when I sent him pics of my spare tire area. Notice the metal strip where the spare tire would sit, what is this for? I also notice that the bottom portion of Hootowls spare tire is raised?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. This looks good. Not too far away from my repo-part actually. I should be able to "optimize" the repo a bit.

Do you have a picture from the same spot from the outside, i.e. from under the car?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if this panel on my 59 is original or not. Looks like it's been around the block though.

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