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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2020 4:48 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

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I have rewired my 58, BUT, there is one wire from the turn signal switch I can't figure out.
1. 2 x wires to right side signals
2. 2 x wires to the left signals
3. 1 x wire to the flasher relay
4. 1 x ?

In the diagrams, its shows going to the flaher relay, but when I connect it, nothing/the flasher relay doesn't work.

All turn signals are working.

#4. 1 wire to the brake light switch.
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 8:43 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Joined the club today.

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Looking to get back to a more normal ride height and some odds and ends here and there. Air filter, trunk carpet, birth certificate (appears to be originally Inca Red), engine replaced with a 36hp from 1966 or later. Chassis number matches and appears to be in fair condition. First aircooled so roast me or toast me.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

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Looks like 60 model year, but what which year & month of production exactly?


That's quite a project! Is there a chassis number under the rear seat?

Otherwise its going to be hard to tell given how much she's been modified over the years.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:03 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Hi guys!
Just bought this barnfind in Russia, which didn't have the best in class service during USSR. Can't understand if it is the second part of 59" or the first of 60?
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It has h-apron, push-door handles and doors, right side fuel filler, green ragtop (read here that it was one year only in 59) and not sure which type of hole for ragtop locker. Semaphores are welded, but they were there.
Can't check the bonnet, cause it has a part of a new one near the window. Also no metal table, the chassis number is welded and no original engine inside.

Looks like 60 model year, but what which year & month of production exactly?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:46 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:38 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

This might help, although may be too early. Iíll do euro first.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:47 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

pjsavidge wrote:
I have rewired my 58, BUT, there is one wire from the turn signal switch I can't figure out.
1. 2 x wires to right side signals
2. 2 x wires to the left signals
3. 1 x wire to the flasher relay
4. 1 x ?

In the diagrams, its shows going to the flaher relay, but when I connect it, nothing/the flasher relay doesn't work.

All turn signals are working.


In the diagrams I see one Black/Red wire going to the brake light switch. Can't tell if it's terminal 30 or 54 but it's the one off upper left of T/S switch in diagram.

Hope this helps,
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:15 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

I have rewired my 58, BUT, there is one wire from the turn signal switch I can't figure out.
1. 2 x wires to right side signals
2. 2 x wires to the left signals
3. 1 x wire to the flasher relay
4. 1 x ?

In the diagrams, its shows going to the flaher relay, but when I connect it, nothing/the flasher relay doesn't work.

All turn signals are working.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:55 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

berpsta wrote:
Can anybody help ID/date my indian Red beetle please


Dibaltic wrote:
August of '59 for the body.


Dibaltic wrote:
Sep 57 type 1 pan.



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

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Can anybody help ID/date my indian Red beetle please

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Your pan is a little on the satanic side i see Shocked Shocked Evil or Very Mad or at least i hope not Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:57 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

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Anyone with an original 6 volt electrical system can probably relate to the marginal starter performance. Would increasing the gauge wire on the starter help it spin faster or easier? A larger wire would carriy more volts and amps. I'm sure this question falls into the, "if it were true, someone would have already done it", category, but I have to ask. All my connections are clean and the battery is nearly new, but it almost doesn't start every time.


There is something wrong with your system. With a fresh battery mine spins over for hours no problem. The first thing I would check is the starter bushing. If it is worn the starter will drag and make it seem like a low/dead battery.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:44 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

pdxeuro wrote:
Hi all,

Wanted to get your expertise here. 59 bug chassis with one bad pan on the passenger side, but otherwise very little rust. I think the drivers pan is fine enough, and have a Master Series grey primer and black topcoat kit, but I did a little crappy-old-primer scraping today.

I donít see any pinholes, but definitely surface rust to maybe a little deeper under here. The underside is all rubber truckbed liner so itís unclear what itís like under there. I will probably get the whole thing sandblasted soon and see better, if this COVID19 outbreak subsides anytime.

Question is, based on what you see here, would you just suck it up and cut out this pan also, or will Master Series taste care of this level of rust?

Anyone not replace and then regret it later?

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leave that pan alone change the other pan . Side note leave the carpet tabs alone on the drivers side. New pan donít come with the carpet tabs.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:41 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Hi all,

Wanted to get your expertise here. 59 bug chassis with one bad pan on the passenger side, but otherwise very little rust. I think the drivers pan is fine enough, and have a Master Series grey primer and black topcoat kit, but I did a little crappy-old-primer scraping today.

I donít see any pinholes, but definitely surface rust to maybe a little deeper under here. The underside is all rubber truckbed liner so itís unclear what itís like under there. I will probably get the whole thing sandblasted soon and see better, if this COVID19 outbreak subsides anytime.

Question is, based on what you see here, would you just suck it up and cut out this pan also, or will Master Series taste care of this level of rust?

Anyone not replace and then regret it later?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:55 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

berpsta wrote:
Dibaltic wrote:
August of '59 for the body. As for the pan is it possible its on a ghia pan? Looks like it'd be a Dec '57 ghia pan possibly?


Iím hoping itís not a ghia pan otherwise Iíve bought a proper Frankenstein would the body even fit a ghia pan?


I believe it would if they changed the rear crossmember that goes in front of torsion housing, and the floor pans..

Could also be a Sep 57 type 1 pan.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:01 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Dibaltic wrote:
August of '59 for the body. As for the pan is it possible its on a ghia pan? Looks like it'd be a Dec '57 ghia pan possibly?


Iím hoping itís not a ghia pan otherwise Iíve bought a proper Frankenstein would the body even fit a ghia pan?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:25 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

August of '59 for the body. As for the pan is it possible its on a ghia pan? Looks like it'd be a Dec '57 ghia pan possibly?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:15 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Can anybody help ID/date my indian Red beetle please

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:36 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Anyone with an original 6 volt electrical system can probably relate to the marginal starter performance. Would increasing the gauge wire on the starter help it spin faster or easier? A larger wire would carriy more volts and amps. I'm sure this question falls into the, "if it were true, someone would have already done it", category, but I have to ask. All my connections are clean and the battery is nearly new, but it almost doesn't start every time.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:50 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

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Here's the updated version with information from the other registry combined

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How do I get my beetle details on this??
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:15 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

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Cointelpro wrote:
My 59ís back seat rails have seen better days. Didnít know about them until reading this forum. Iím missing two of them. Iím betting they are impossible to find.
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Probably a dumb question that Iíll get roasted for but Iíve gotta ask - what are the rails for? Iím guessing to help stiffen up the back so you can fold it down and pile luggage on it? Iíve never seen them before (my Ď59 doesnít have them, probably removed by a PO) and now Iíll have to hunt some down for mine.


Not a dumb question, I was wondering the same thing. But your idea is the same I had.
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