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PostPosted: Today 7:47 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

The dash trim on my glove box rattles. Was there any kind of rubber washer or gasket under the clips from new or are my clips just miss shaped because someone in the past has removed the trim and reinstalled when the car was painted? They go nowhere near holding the trim tight. Is there a source for new clips?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:37 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

bwaz wrote:
EverettB wrote:
Nice! I'm not a 58/59 expert but one thing that did jump out at me is it looks like it has later high back seats made into low backs.

Reason: The release knob on the side - that is a later high back seat thing


I thought 67 seats had low backs with the release knob?


Mid-to-late '67 seats had low backs with the side release knob. But you can see that the knob on the release is from a high back. The knob for '67 is smooth just like the dash knobs and '67-only black rubber radio knobs. Also, the lower arms that attach to the seat bottom is different; later style.
See the difference here (ignore the lower release lever, it's the early '67 style before the release got relocated to the side of the seat back)

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:58 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

EverettB wrote:
Nice! I'm not a 58/59 expert but one thing that did jump out at me is it looks like it has later high back seats made into low backs.

Reason: The release knob on the side - that is a later high back seat thing


I thought 67 seats had low backs with the release knob?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:47 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

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esauerwein, Love that color combination Cool . Are you planning to re-install the front and rear overrider supports and snugging up the front bumperettes (bumper guards)?


yes, most definitely....already in the works!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

EverettB wrote:
Nice! I'm not a 58/59 expert but one thing that did jump out at me is it looks like it has later high back seats made into low backs.

Reason: The release knob on the side - that is a later high back seat thing


Yeah, first thing i noticed too....nice to have but technically not correct
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:15 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:15 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

esauerwein, Love that color combination Cool . Are you planning to re-install the front and rear overrider supports and snugging up the front bumperettes (bumper guards)?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:52 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Nice! I'm not a 58/59 expert but one thing that did jump out at me is it looks like it has later high back seats made into low backs.

Reason: The release knob on the side - that is a later high back seat thing
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:54 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Heres my new 59' ragtop...I have really enjoyed this thread
this is my first big window bug, so I have a lot to learn
I have found a quite a few minor non stock items on her

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:15 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Kind of a necro from the first few pages of this thread but I thought I would throw one more set of variables regarding some of the areas identified as 58 or 59 items. This post originally used some images from other posters. I decided to take a few pictures with my 8 year old not fond of low lighting camera.

First off it's serial number is a 212XXXX putting it in the October '58 build range

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The half moon stamp that goes over where the tie rods is stamped in on the 58 and out on 59.
The stamping for the 2 fuse block is stamped more the shape of the fuse block and more defined in 58 where 59 blends into the panel more towards the bottom.
The 58 was the last year for the made in West Germany tag below the VIN plate.
The 58 is the last year for the reinforcement plate that goes around the area the tie rods go through

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In the image below we have the 2 ribs vs 3 and the "Made in West Germany" tag however the body number stamping above the tag is not there. Just some hashing.

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There is also a "3" stamped above and slightly to the left of the steering box access cover.

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The "Baujahr" as referenced by this poster box is empty on our car.

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The drain tubes in the engine compartment are similar to this one with holes at the bottom.

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Last but not least we have what is considered the '59 lower wheel well area. Does not surprise me since the it was probably built in the latter half of October and some newer parts were most likely available. There is one drain hole in the middle front of that area to go with the other 4 that are visible.

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If this was all redundant to information provided earlier I apologize. I read through the first 102 pages yesterday and did not see this combination.

I did borrow the engine compartment view. It was getting late last night and I didn't feel like moving the lighting around in the garage.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:13 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

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The British Car Club of Manitoba had an event called "Drive My Car" where people bring out their cars and we all swap and everyone gets to drive everyone elses car. Great fun. As you can see the turnout was low but we all had a good time. My 1959 Volkswagen Canadian Custom sunroof was the hit of the party. Everyone loved it. People were amazed at how easy it is to drive and what a good little car it is. I even had a inquiry about price. Of course it's a great car - they only sold 25,000,000 of them!

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That's such a fun idea!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:53 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

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The British Car Club of Manitoba had an event called "Drive My Car" where people bring out their cars and we all swap and everyone gets to drive everyone elses car. Great fun. As you can see the turnout was low but we all had a good time. My 1959 Volkswagen Canadian Custom sunroof was the hit of the party. Everyone loved it. People were amazed at how easy it is to drive and what a good little car it is. I even had a inquiry about price. Of course it's a great car - they only sold 25,000,000 of them!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:50 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

I've seen this car in person. WOW! He and I are friends on f*book and had a long chat about our cars. I could send you an ash tray for comparison or even a glove box door. Come to think of it I have lots of bits and pieces you could use to compare. Let me dig through my stash.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:51 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

sunroof wrote:
Hi Stephan! It is likely a mistake unless it was special ordered which is VERY unlikely. I've looked at your pictures and it sure looks like L14 to me.

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Yah, thats what I was thinking...Check out what this guy wrote here --> https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=695794
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:36 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Hi Stephan! It is likely a mistake unless it was special ordered which is VERY unlikely. I've looked at your pictures and it sure looks like L14 to me.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:34 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Eric&Barb wrote:
30 metric BHP is same as 36 SAE BHP.


ahh, never thought about it! Thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 4:47 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

30 metric BHP is same as 36 SAE BHP.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:18 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

I just received my birth certificate from VW and noticed that my car (a 1959 Canadian custom) is painted L344 Reed green...according to the certificate.

I was assuming L14 Mignoette Green was correct.

Were the Deluxe cars L14 and the Canadian Custom (aka standard) cars L344?

Because its a Canadian model car, it has hydraulic brakes (not cable like the euro cars), chrome bumpers, etc..

Maybe the birth certificate is incorrect because it also says that my car came with a 30hp engine (not a 36hp), but then it says sold into Canadian market which is correct because it was purchased new at Pacific Volkswagen here in Vancouver BC.

I'll post a picture of the certificate tonight.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:52 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

I was doing some work on my front bumper and trying to update a few of the pieces. What I noticed on what looked to be my original August 57 bumper was the bolts that hold the towel bar to the blade have 17mm. heads as opposed to the two other bars I had, one with 14mm bolts, the other 13mm? I assume those got smaller bolts as they got newer and this is unique to early 58 models?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:34 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

I recently finished restoring my blue/grey door panels for my euro 59 beetle (see earlier post). I had some blue/grey SIM vinyl paint made up to match the area on the door panel that was behind the armrest. I feel I got a right on match. Anyway the reason I am mentioning this is that I have enough left over to do another set of panels and if anyone out there could use the paint I would be happy to help them out.
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