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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:25 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Woops! I did not mean to offend.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:07 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

sunroof wrote:
Nope, sorry. Not correct. Same as Wolfparts.

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If that was a swipe at my suggestion, I didn't say it was correct. Having not directly purchased from Wolfparts, it was the most correct new manufacture panel I could find; except for NOS OE parts. I would agree though, a visual inspection of both panels, it appears that Wolfparts is the supplier/manufacturer. Might as well get it from the Wolfparts, it is a bit cheaper, barring shipping and taxes.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 3:31 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

In 2005 I brought an interior kit for my '64 bug to a local shop and asked them to install it. He struggled with every piece and suggested next time to just let him do it from scratch. The parts making up the kit were close, but made the job much harder. That supplier is no longer in business. The variety of fabrics now days is infinite and a good shop may be able to give you exactly what you want.......Even the "correct" look your going for.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:55 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Vinyl seat covers. Looking back through this thread, as I very often do, I wondered if anybody has reached a conclusion over the years of where to obtain the most correct seat covers or seat cover material (vinyl). My Garnet Red car's driver's seat (grey/brick red) is definitely beyond saving. Any suggestions?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Garnet Red Wheel colors and Radial Whitewall Tires Reply with quote

stale air wrote:
hsosa1 wrote:
is the right color combo on the wheel . Im referring to the off white color anyone know ?


The two colors needed for the wheels on a Garnet Red car are...

L81 Parchment White

And....L359 Ruby

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Anyone know where I can get a thin wall white wall


A bunch of options to choose from.
https://www.cokertire.com/tires/styles/whitewall-tires.html?shop_width_bias_ply=3745
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Garnet Red Wheel colors and Radial Whitewall Tires Reply with quote

hsosa1 wrote:
is the right color combo on the wheel . Im referring to the off white color anyone know ?


The two colors needed for the wheels on a Garnet Red car are...

L81 Parchment White

And....L359 Ruby

hsosa1 wrote:
Anyone know where I can get a thin wall white wall


A bunch of options to choose from.
https://www.cokertire.com/tires/styles/whitewall-tires.html?shop_width_bias_ply=3745
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:35 pm    Post subject: Re: 1958 beetle Reply with quote

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Regarding the white wall tires: My b/c states that my 58 came with white wall tires right from the factory (Option 128)


Yes some cars did come with white walls but never with WIDE whites. The original WW were 1 inch wide.

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. Anyone know where I can get a thin wall white wall
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Garnet Red Wheel colors and Radial Whitewall Tires Reply with quote

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myvolks1 wrote:
Stevo,

Can you post a close up pic of one of your new painted wheels so we can see the whitewall tires close up?



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Wheels and tires look really good,

Can you post some close up pics of your new painted wheels and your new whitewall tires. I am restoring my Garnet Red 59.

By any chance do you have any info on the paint colors that were used to paint your wheels? Some info I could take to a paint store to have the paint mixed for my wheels?

Can you post a Link from Coker on the whitewalls you went with?

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coker-Classic-Nostalgia-Ra...mp;vxp=mtr

They matched the paint from my og spare


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is the right color combo on the wheel . Im referring to the off white color anyone know ?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:57 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

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Hi guys!
Just bought this barnfind in Russia, which didn't have the best in class service during USSR. Can't understand if it is the second part of 59" or the first of 60?
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It has h-apron, push-door handles and doors, right side fuel filler, green ragtop (read here that it was one year only in 59) and not sure which type of hole for ragtop locker. Semaphores are welded, but they were there.
Can't check the bonnet, cause it has a part of a new one near the window. Also no metal table, the chassis number is welded and no original engine inside.

Looks like 60 model year, but what which year & month of production exactly?
this would be a 60 as far I know 59 came with pull handles
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:17 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Nope, sorry. Not correct. Same as Wolfparts.


I did this job on my '59 but ended up using the Wolfparts panel because it was the best I could find. It fit so perfectly it brought a tear to this flinty old eye. Not correct but will do the job.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:12 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

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Anyone know where I can buy a correct 59 lower apron panel I hit up wolf parts he told me his are for ovals I can make it work. Kinda pricey endeavor. Or I can take a torch and hammer this out . Wolfsburg west sells the standard panel, Thanks


https://www.kaeferland-shop.de/karosserie/blechteile/reparaturbleche/reserveradwanne/

Still pricey but the most correct that I have found.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:39 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

hsosa1 wrote:
Anyone know where I can buy a correct 59 lower apron panel I hit up wolf parts he told me his are for ovals I can make it work. Kinda pricey endeavor. Or I can take a torch and hammer this out . Wolfsburg west sells the standard panel, Thanks


https://www.kaeferland-shop.de/karosserie/blechteile/reparaturbleche/reserveradwanne/

Still pricey but the most correct that I have found.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:25 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

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OK guys, I need help. I have a 59' I am painting L343 Kalahari Beige. What I need your help with is, the paint code for the center of the rims (L450 Light Brown). I have looked, called, and emailed everyone and everywhere I can find that might have it, to no avail. Can anyone HELP?!?!?!?!

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you can have Tammy at Tamco mix you up that code


No good They do not have the formula. Still looking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:27 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Anyone know where I can buy a correct 59 lower apron panel I hit up wolf parts he told me his are for ovals I can make it work. Kinda pricey endeavor. Or I can take a torch and hammer this out .
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Wolfsburg west sells the standard panel, Thanks
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:01 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

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OK guys, I need help. I have a 59' I am painting L343 Kalahari Beige. What I need your help with is, the paint code for the center of the rims (L450 Light Brown). I have looked, called, and emailed everyone and everywhere I can find that might have it, to no avail. Can anyone HELP?!?!?!?!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:05 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Quote:
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This is correct for your car:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/wiring/bug_58_USA.jpg

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:56 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Congrats on your '59. Looks like your car was built to be exported, not to stay in Europe. I have a '59 Euro ragtop model with the semaphores, the plain blade bumpers and the speedo in Km's. I'm in the process of rebuilding the engine (a non-original '57 1200cc) and fighting off all my friends who say to "upgrade" the 6V to the 12 volt system. The only short coming of the 6 volts was during start up. I installed a relay right at the starter motor and it now starts like an F-1 race car with no problem. Can't believe what a difference it made. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Greetings!! I've been enjoying this site for a number of years, and have finally been able to purchase my first Beetle, which happens to be a 1959 model year. I'm only now learning that the 59's are a little different than the model years before and after.

My serial number is 2347422 (body and chassis match), built on 20 March 1959 and shipped on 25 March 1959. The country of destination was Canada (Toronto) and from what I was told by the PO, it has spent its entire life in the Niagara Falls area. At some point the motor has been replaced with a later model one (D02-----) and the PO converted it to a 12 volt electrical system.

The only strange things about it is that the speedometer is in km/hr (Canada didn't adopt the metric system until the 70's), and there are no semaphores. I thought European and Canadian models had semaphores in 1959 and I can't see any obvious evidence of them having been filled in.

My main question is which wiring diagram in The Samba technical section would be the most correct for my car? I realize that the wiring harness has been replaced, and it seems to be a mix between the 1958 diagram and the 1960 one.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:27 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

OK guys, I need help. I have a 59' I am painting L343 Kalahari Beige. What I need your help with is, the paint code for the center of the rims (L450 Light Brown). I have looked, called, and emailed everyone and everywhere I can find that might have it, to no avail. Can anyone HELP?!?!?!?!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:53 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Mine had the same cam issue and looked about exactly like that on the rearmost lifter lobe like yours too! Wonder what causes that on that particular lifter.. Lifter lobes were concaved in too, instead of convexed outward if that makes sense.
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