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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:03 am    Post subject: Gear oil leakage with rear drum removed Reply with quote

Pulled a rear drum on my Ď60 about 10 days ago while awaiting for some new brake parts to be shipped from WW. Noticed a bit of a puddle of gear oil on the garage floor today. Guessing that this happens with the drum removed and I need not be concerned??? Didnít show any evidence of leakage before I pulled the drum.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: Gear oil leakage with rear drum removed Reply with quote

The torque of the drum nut compresses the spacer hidden o ring seal..
Yes normal..now that drum is off... but... if you have no idea of when the axle seal and o ring were changed last.. best to replace now..

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Gear oil leakage with rear drum removed Reply with quote

VOLKSWAGNUT wrote:
The torque of the drum nut compresses the spacer hidden o ring seal..
Yes normal..now that drum is off... but... if you have no idea of when the axle seal and o ring were changed last.. best to replace now..

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Thanks. Sounds like a good idea especially with new brake shoes. Looks like a straightforward job. I noticed one method said 1) install o-ring 2) install spacer 3) install seal. The other one said 1) o-ring 2) seal 3) spacer. Which is best?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Gear oil leakage with rear drum removed Reply with quote

1960 bearing caps?

Drum slinger?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Gear oil leakage with rear drum removed Reply with quote

VOLKSWAGNUT wrote:
1960 bearing caps?

Drum slinger?

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Yes 1960 with the drum slinger.
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PostPosted: Yesterday 4:14 am    Post subject: Re: Gear oil leakage with rear drum removed Reply with quote

wayne1230cars wrote:
VOLKSWAGNUT wrote:
The torque of the drum nut compresses the spacer hidden o ring seal..
Yes normal..now that drum is off... but... if you have no idea of when the axle seal and o ring were changed last.. best to replace now..

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Thanks. Sounds like a good idea especially with new brake shoes. Looks like a straightforward job. I noticed one method said 1) install o-ring 2) install spacer 3) install seal. The other one said 1) o-ring 2) seal 3) spacer. Which is best?


I used the Bugme video method. He puts the spacer into the housing and then puts the spacer and housing onto the axle as a unit. When doing this you inspect that the spacer has not dislodged the seal's wire retainer when inserting the spacer into the seal, which it can easily do.

You then add the combined unit onto the axle and therefore more or less guarantee that the outer seal is in perfect shape.
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PostPosted: Yesterday 11:47 am    Post subject: Re: Gear oil leakage with rear drum removed Reply with quote

^ x2..
yep... but.. I've not watched any video on it.. Laughing
Just common sense to me..

Buy a good axle seal kit.. the bigger one.. it will have all you need and some extra parts for the later and better caps too.
Advice....now's the time to ditch that drum slinger and go to 65-67 caps and weep hole..

http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=111598051A
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PostPosted: Yesterday 8:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Gear oil leakage with rear drum removed Reply with quote

VOLKSWAGNUT wrote:
^ x2..
yep... but.. I've not watched any video on it.. Laughing
Just common sense to me..

Buy a good axle seal kit.. the bigger one.. it will have all you need and some extra parts for the later and better caps too.
Advice....now's the time to ditch that drum slinger and go to 65-67 caps and weep hole..

http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=111598051A
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Well I thought it was common sense as well, but thought by big-noting my post with a reference to Bug Me videos would get me extra brownie points and make my post all the more believable. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Today 8:17 am    Post subject: Re: Gear oil leakage with rear drum removed Reply with quote

viiking wrote:
VOLKSWAGNUT wrote:
^ x2..
yep... but.. I've not watched any video on it.. Laughing
Just common sense to me..

Buy a good axle seal kit.. the bigger one.. it will have all you need and some extra parts for the later and better caps too.
Advice....now's the time to ditch that drum slinger and go to 65-67 caps and weep hole..

http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=111598051A
.


Well I thought it was common sense as well, but thought by big-noting my post with a reference to Bug Me videos would get me extra brownie points and make my post all the more believable. Very Happy

Glad that you mentioned the Bugme videos. I have them and sure enough the one on brake maintenance shows the rear axle seal replacement. On the drum slinger kind that I have, Mike Higgins does not remove the bearing cover but rather just pries the spacer and the seal out and then removes the metal washer and small o-ring. On the newer style, he removes the bearing cover to access the seal from the inside. That way he also changes the paper gaskets and the large o-ring which are included in the kit anyways. If this sounds like a bit of a plug for the Bugme videos, I guess it is. Very helpful.
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