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dhaavers
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Can I be your friend...??? 
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goskiracer
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Wouldn't you know my rough and high idle was due to a collapsed breather hose.
I picked up an oil breather hose for a Thing at a local vw parts store that mostly has air cooled parts. The Thing hose is the correct material and you get about 20" worth of hose for $13, enough for you and a friend.
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mbwesty
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| On the issue with 3/4 or 7/8...I have just fixed the breather hose in my 88 Westy...the heating pipe on the air intake side fits 7/8 and the air breather tower fits 3/4. I bought an Earl's 3/4 tube (for oil purpose) and could not jam the heating pipe into the hose. I didn't want to risk ruining an old plastic piece, so I slip a 1" long 3/4 piece on the air breather tower (the O.D. of the Earl's 3/4 tube is about 1") and used an ~ 1" I.D. silicone hose to hook up the tower and heating pipe. It fixed the leak... |
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BushChicken
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| Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| Wildthings wrote: |
| Perales wrote: |
| Love My Westy wrote: |
| I just checked my hose out and it seems to be in good shape. Kind of amazing for 24 years old. |
Am I the only one who thinks this is funny? |
I doubt seriously if he still has the flimsy original OEM hose. Yes I find it funny (or maybe just sad) when people make such claims as the part(s) in question may well have been replaced multiple times by PO's. |
Aww, c'mon why you gotta inject seriousness into the joke? 
But, to add my experience to the thread, I bought my van 8 years ago and haven't changed the hose until just recently, no idea how long it was running before then. It was spongy but functioning fine, changed it in the interest of preventative maintenance. |
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Wildthings
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| Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:11 am Post subject: |
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| Perales wrote: |
| Love My Westy wrote: |
| I just checked my hose out and it seems to be in good shape. Kind of amazing for 24 years old. |
Am I the only one who thinks this is funny? |
I doubt seriously if he still has the flimsy original OEM hose. Yes I find it funny (or maybe just sad) when people make such claims as the part(s) in question may well have been replaced multiple times by PO's. |
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syncrosimon
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| Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:37 am Post subject: |
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I got this hose from Brickwerks as a replacement.
http://www.brickwerks.co.uk/shop?page=shop.product...ory_id=123
I would have liked black but they were out of stock when the engine was out.
I am sure the collapsing of these pipes causes the intermittent belching out of smoke that a number of people including me have experienced. Not any more though. My thoughts are that they collapse allowing pressure to build, then belches through a lot of oily vapour when the pressure opens up the pipe. Just speculation though.
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bjrogers86auto
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| Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:49 am Post subject: funny |
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Perales
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Love My Westy wrote: |
| I just checked my hose out and it seems to be in good shape. Kind of amazing for 24 years old. |
Am I the only one who thinks this is funny?
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Love My Westy
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| I just checked my hose out and it seems to be in good shape. Kind of amazing for 24 years old. |
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Wildthings
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OK now I am confused. Everyone is saying 3/4 and now you say 7/8!
What is the correct size. The Amazon link does sell the same hose in 3/4 by the way. I really like the silicone idea though. |
Edit: Got out the tape measure and checked today and it definitely takes 3/4" or 19mm hose. Don't know why I was thinking 7/8" hose. Wonder what vehicle actually needed that 7/8" hose. Lost to time at this point. 
As far as using just regular heater hose, it will typically far outlast the crappy hose that VW used originally. Those original hoses started collapsing about the time the vans first pulled off the lot into traffic and had rotted through within a year or two. Regular heater hose will get pretty hard and needs to be replaced every few years, while the silicone stuff seems to have a pretty long life.
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BushChicken
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| RCB wrote: |
Wildthings speaks not with fork tongue....silicone hose is perfect for this application. Ive had a piece on my oil breather tower for a few years now and it looks as good today as the day it was installed. Once every few months Ill remove it and inspect it inside and out and it still looks brand new  |
Sweet! Thanks for the info, I'll have to check that out. |
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RCB
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Perales wrote: |
OK now I am confused. Everyone is saying 3/4 and now you say 7/8!
What is the correct size. The Amazon link does sell the same hose in 3/4 by the way. I really like the silicone idea though. |
This is what I have, not sure about others though.
THERMOPOL silicone heater hose 3/4" (19.05mm)
Its a cool Blue Color on the outside and just as cool of a Red color on the inside. Puts some bling in the engine compartment  |
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Perales
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OK now I am confused. Everyone is saying 3/4 and now you say 7/8!
What is the correct size. The Amazon link does sell the same hose in 3/4 by the way. I really like the silicone idea though.
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RCB
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Wildthings speaks not with fork tongue....silicone hose is perfect for this application. Ive had a piece on my oil breather tower for a few years now and it looks as good today as the day it was installed. Once every few months Ill remove it and inspect it inside and out and it still looks brand new |
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BushChicken
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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$1.62 for a foot of 3/4 heater hose. No clamps required.
Luckily Tim noticed the hose in a picture on another post and now it's good for awhile.
Gowesty sells it for $19.99. If anyone wants me to send them a piece of heater hose for the repair I can do it for $17.99 plus shipping...hehe.
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GW doesn't use heater hose, they use stuff that is speced correctly for the task.
Not to say heater hose wouldn't work for a little bit, but lets not compare apples to oranges, as the saying goes.
I am curious about how the silicone hose would work though... |
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Wildthings
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Perales
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My concern is that oil and rubber sometimes don't like each other very much. I have seen petroleum products degrade (to the point of catastrophic failure) a rubber gasket within a week. Since this hose is related to the oil system, I am concerned with compatibility in the type of rubber the hose is made from. Is heater hose rated for oil contact?
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bjrogers86auto
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$1.62 for a foot of 3/4 heater hose. No clamps required.
Luckily Tim noticed the hose in a picture on another post and now it's good for awhile.
Gowesty sells it for $19.99. If anyone wants me to send them a piece of heater hose for the repair I can do it for $17.99 plus shipping...hehe.
Brian.
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Timwhy
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Can't tell you on the size without going out and pulling it off the van. The type: It appears to be a regular rubber hose (fuel? coolant?) you can buy at your local auto parts store; nothing really special to my untrained eyes.
It actually fits just dandy. I put the clamps on mine because I didn't want extra clamps floating around (better to be right there in the engine bay, no? ), and I figured since they included them, why not put 'em on? |
How thick would you say that hose is compared to the original? That coolant
hose that I replaced mine with is really rigid compared to the original, and there's
not alot of give to it. Though I didn't need a heat gun to get my new hoses on,
I don't think that they need clamps to keep them on either. I love VC but I think
that once you add up cost of hose and shipping, you can pick up one locally cheaper.
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kamzcab86
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone know exactly what hose VC is selling for the job?
Type and size? |
Can't tell you on the size without going out and pulling it off the van. The type: It appears to be a regular rubber hose (fuel? coolant?) you can buy at your local auto parts store; nothing really special to my untrained eyes.
| teej wrote: |
| Possibly related question: why does van-cafe include hose clamps when the stock install doesn't appear to use them, nor did the recent pics of Timwhy's work? Is theirs a bit oversized so as to require them? |
It actually fits just dandy. I put the clamps on mine because I didn't want extra clamps floating around (better to be right there in the engine bay, no? ), and I figured since they included them, why not put 'em on?
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