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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 9:02 am    Post subject: Sliding Door Reply with quote

I am looking to make my sliding door smoother to open and quieter. Does anyone have a trick to make this happen?
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: Sliding Door Reply with quote

make sure that your painted roller surfaces have good paint and smooth. a rusted non-painted roller stripe will make noise.

your bearings may have internal wear and generate noise from the inside needles.

there are threads on using UHMW tape on the surfaces the bearings roll on
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/search.php?search_keywords=%22uhmw+tape%22&search_forum=20

Gowesty now offers rollers with an outer delrin surface.
http://www.gowesty.com/product-details.php?id=24620
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 9:29 am    Post subject: Re: Sliding Door Reply with quote

I would not advise the UHMW tape on sliding door parts. It degrades after a few years and is very hard to completely remove. It does reduce noise but in the long term not worth it.
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 9:50 am    Post subject: Re: Sliding Door Reply with quote

The noise comes from unlubricated roller bearings and from dirt and grit on the surfaces that they roll on. Thoroughly clean the lower portion of the sliding door track where the roller runs. Lube the roller bearing with something like Triflow, not WD40. Also clean the upper track behind the door where the upper roller assembly runs and lubricate the rollers as well. Oh, and don't forget the topmost roller at head level... This should help greatly.
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 12:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Sliding Door Reply with quote

I got the sliding door bearing kit fom GW. It's now pinky smooth!

http://www.gowesty.com/product-details.php?v=&id=24620
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 2:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Sliding Door Reply with quote

transanalog wrote:
I got the sliding door bearing kit fom GW. It's now pinky smooth!

http://www.gowesty.com/product-details.php?v=&id=24620


You said schmoode?

I had these rollers made for my van last year, they have a great price, it cost me way more than that!

Haven't mounted them on yet, I'm glad to hear good reviews Cool
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 3:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Sliding Door Reply with quote

You don't tell us a model year, there are very distinct differences between the early and late designs.

Even more information! (Newer style)

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=650951&highlight=

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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 3:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Sliding Door Reply with quote

djkeev wrote:
You don't tell us a model year, there are very distinct differences between the early and late designs.

Even more information! (Newer style)

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=650951&highlight=

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You're right, and looking through his posts, it might be a first generation sliding door Confused
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 5:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Sliding Door Reply with quote

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I would not advise the UHMW tape on sliding door parts. It degrades after a few years and is very hard to completely remove. It does reduce noise but in the long term not worth it.


I would strongly advise not using UHMW tape on load-bearing sliding door tracks. The upper, inside track tape on mine is still like new; the load-bearing tracks, on the other hand... tape destroyed, but residue left behind, which is a royal bitch to remove. Evil or Very Mad

And despite having new bearings on-hand, I might just have to buy another set after seeing those nifty Delrin versions. Think
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 5:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Sliding Door Reply with quote

I have an '82 and over the weekend finally got a chance to clean and repaint the rusty tracks. It's better, but not great. Can the early sliding doors even be great?

Is it possible to swap the newer hardware, or is there a physical difference between the early and late doors / mounts? Early sliding doors don't get much love when it comes to new parts...
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 5:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Sliding Door Reply with quote

erste wrote:
I have an '82 and over the weekend finally got a chance to clean and repaint the rusty tracks. It's better, but not great. Can the early sliding doors even be great?

Is it possible to swap the newer hardware, or is there a physical difference between the early and late doors / mounts? Early sliding doors don't get much love when it comes to new parts...


No can brah!

you can swap the top track thing, but the older one is better IMO, all teflon.
The lower stuff you can.

The track stuff by the rear window is a different animal. I like the older ones better for that teflon slider, schmoode when well cleaned and greased.
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 8:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Sliding Door Reply with quote

You should do what I did:
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A short length of 1/16th aircraft cable from the hardware store, run through a piece of vinyl tube, makes a nice two finger loop for pulling the door closed gently.
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I glued onto the window a strong flat magnet salvaged from a laptop sized hard disk to keep the cable from popping out and getting folded backwards as you close the door:
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The backside is crimped with the aluminum ferrules also from the hardware store:
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Its important to maintain some tension on the cable as you smash the last ferrule in order to keep the loop rigid. After some use the cable may rotate into a bad position, at which time you can reposition them properly then glue the ferrules into place so as to keep the cable pressing against the magnet.

This is great because you not only pull the door closed easily but also inward to the latch. No slamming required!
See this page for more:
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