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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 1:35 pm    Post subject: Camber compensator Reply with quote

Anyone have any feedback/knowelge about the camber compensator for split bus with rgbs? I have seen them around and see how in theory they would be a good thing, I need some real input .Thank you all.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would first invest in the right tires, shocks, and then anti-sway bar on the front axle. After that if you still need more would try the rear camber compensator.
Big problem with the RCCs is most are designed to bolt onto the transaxle where the side plate studs all too often get pulled out. Have found one vintage RCC that clamped onto the transaxle frame horns. Much nicer design!!

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=358596&highlight=camber+compensator

Plus lots more info through the "Search" feature for "Camber Compensator".
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have one on my Monster 15 window, works great.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bought one a couple years ago from Bus Boys. The first time I drove up a circular highway onramp, it was clearly money well spent!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have one on my Monster 15 window, works great.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have one on my Monster 15 window, works great.


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You have a monster 15 as well.. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have one on my Monster 15 window, works great.


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You have a monster 15 as well.. Laughing


I have one on my 65
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would engineer a way to mount it to the tranny horns rather than the trans. I have seen the bolts get boogered (as has been said) but they also put undo stress on the tranny mounts, as all of that force goes straight into the mounts when making a hard turn.

They do work well, though.
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 11:15 am    Post subject: Confused about the rear camber problem on the split buses Reply with quote

I've been reading here that the positive camber on early buses is a common problem, but it seems some say to use an add-on camber compensator and others to adjust the torsion bars. I have a stock 65 21W, just finishing it up, but it looks pretty odd from behind. \ / Feels kinda squirrely, doesn't seem to track as straight as it should. New steering box, all new steering etc. Stock wheels and size tires. What should I try first? Ideas/suggestions?
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tires do sit a little bit that way normally at full stock height so it's not necessarily an issue.

The camber compensator won't change that, you have to adjust the torsion bars if you think it's off.

This thread has some information:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=389989&highlight=adjust+torsion

Notice I searched on "adjust torsion" above (words are highlighted in that thread) Searching on that in this section using the search screen will give you more topics.
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 12:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Confused about the rear camber problem on the split buse Reply with quote

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I've been reading here that the positive camber on early buses is a common problem, but it seems some say to use an add-on camber compensator and others to adjust the torsion bars. I have a stock 65 21W, just finishing it up, but it looks pretty odd from behind. \ / Feels kinda squirrely, doesn't seem to track as straight as it should. New steering box, all new steering etc. Stock wheels and size tires. What should I try first? Ideas/suggestions?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just purchased an Empi CC which will soon be installed on my DC and while searching for pictures of CC installed I ran into this photo,

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Didn't realize it was possible to install a rear swaybar on our buses. What are your thoughts on this set up, good idea or overkill?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RobzKombi wrote:
Just purchased an Empi CC which will soon be installed on my DC and while searching for pictures of CC installed I ran into this photo,

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Didn't realize it was possible to install a rear swaybar on our buses. What are your thoughts on this set up, good idea or overkill?


I would love to see pics of the (2nd) swaybar off of the Bus. I would run that setup on my Kemperink.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick search on the Cip1 site brought this up http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ACC%2DC10%2D4050

But that's for 68 and up buses, nothing for splits.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an old EMPI camber compensator on my '61 and it works great.
I easily drove 10mph faster on a certain windy road without even realising it. I was pleasantly surprised.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:13 am    Post subject: which camber compensator Reply with quote

Good morning,

I am going to add camber compensator to a couple of type 2's. A 63 & a 66, both with RGB's and stock suspension. I have read as many threads as I can find, but still have a couple of questions.

Most of the CC's I see at various dealer sites state that their product fits type1 and Ghia. I have not seen any specifically for an early type 2. Here are a few links to some I have found.

http://www.socalautoparts.com/product_info.php/cam...ba17c4eb90

http://fisherbuggies.com/bugpack/camber-stop

http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=463

Does anyone have experience with any of these? Any other ideas or thoughts are welcome.

Thanks,

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i believe they are all the same as the relationship between the parts and attachments are the same.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love my cc
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what exactly do these do? I don't want to affect my ride height to much...I like it as tall as I can get.

I understand they make handling "better", but what is the process they are working on. They look like they keep the axles down...which is what they kinda want to do anyway. Is it just adding another spring basically?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slow36hp wrote:
i believe they are all the same as the relationship between the parts and attachments are the same.


Please correct me if I am wrong.... but I do not believe this to be true.

Have a look at the differences between the CC's in the first two links the OP provided...


So Cal Imports' CC:
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And, the ridiculously overpriced ($205 Confused ), BugPack CC from Fisher Buggies:
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In both images, you can see that the 'compensation bar' is bent/angled at an upward slant. From my understanding/experience, this angle produces an upward force on the axle tubes that will work in a bus that has a straight-axle trans. Notice the red urethane 'pads' that contact the tubes... I have this set-up on my Westy.

But in an RGB equipped bus, like Clara's awesome bus, The opposite forces are needed... as Clara's example illustrates, there are straps that hold the RGB tubes down, and the 'compensation bar' is not bent, but is straight instead:
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In the OP's last link, the CB Camber Compensator has these same spec's, save for the mount at the transmission, (and is reasonably priced too.):
CB images are protected by copyright and I cannot post the example image, so just click this Link:
http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=463

This is the one that I think would work for your application.... but again, I could be wrong on this whole thing. I am not an expert... so take this with a grain of salt.

But I too, love my CC. Very Happy
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