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EverettB Administrator
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hugheseum Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:59 am Post subject: |
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awesome thread/post,
the early ones 55-57? are flat where they mount to the lower inner nose section,im not positive when this changed but the later ones were relief pressed on both the inner nose and splash pan _________________ Have a great day! |
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cdennisg Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:14 am Post subject: |
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hugheseum wrote: |
awesome thread/post,
the early ones 55-57? are flat where they mount to the lower inner nose section,im not positive when this changed but the later ones were relief pressed on both the inner nose and splash pan |
Any pics of that(?), as it is what I am looking for.
Great thread BTW. I was thinking of suggesting something like it this AM after reading another post where the subject came up yet again. _________________ nothing |
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EverettB Administrator
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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hugheseum wrote: |
the early ones 55-57? are flat where they mount to the lower inner nose section,im not positive when this changed but the later ones were relief pressed on both the inner nose and splash pan |
Oh? Pics would be great, I can add it.
I know I have heard people say that the very early pans (55-56?) have some parts that are spot-welded on, like they were made in multiple pieces.
Pics needed of that as well. _________________ How to Post Photos
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hugheseum Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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i have several different 55-58 buses here,i will see if i can see the inner nose panel change cut off (roughly) by comparing my inventory,i have big stack of early pedal pans but they are seriously buried,maybe someone else has some that are easy to access?
im going to guess the change is when the tailights changed in 57 as theres a bunch of little things that are new in the mid 57 buses
edit,your pics actually show the non relief pressed edge on the early pan.... _________________ Have a great day! |
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mtb7001 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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great thread EB. I see evidence of splash pans on the front of my bus, is there any way to tell if they were OG ? I just ordered my Birth Ceritificate, will it be on there? Information about repops and their quality or lack thereof might be worthy of mention. _________________ 63 15 window deluxe Turkis walk through 1500
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Dave24 Samba Hack Purist
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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I believe they all came with one when new, and that there are no repro's being made. |
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EverettB Administrator
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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mtb7001 wrote: |
great thread EB. I see evidence of splash pans on the front of my bus, is there any way to tell if they were OG ? I just ordered my Birth Ceritificate, will it be on there? Information about repops and their quality or lack thereof might be worthy of mention. |
Yes, all Buses had a pedal pan as far as I know.
The only repop I know of is Gerson is reproducing the Barndoor pedal pan.
The 55-up ones pop up fairly frequently, there are a number of them for sale in the Bus classifieds right now. _________________ How to Post Photos
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zozo Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Did they come in various colors over the years? Were they all the same color? Were any originally in colors coordinated to the paint codes? |
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obus Samba Member
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EverettB Administrator
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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zozo wrote: |
Did they come in various colors over the years? Were they all the same color? Were any originally in colors coordinated to the paint codes? |
My best guess is that they are all the VW grey primer. Various shades of grey though since that varies over the years. _________________ How to Post Photos
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kombisutra Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:35 am Post subject: |
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For those searching for the one year only 67 pan, I can confirm that the later pans are exactly the same pressing excepting for the MC cutout. If you want to "make" your 67 pan, I scribed these measurements directly onto another pan.
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obus Samba Member
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House Minutia Militia
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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There are some small subtle differences too that I think are somewhat unknown.
Greg, Clara, and I were looking at 5 or 6 different similar year range splash pans together
one evening and we picked out 3 or 4 small different things between them all... |
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mightymouse Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:37 am Post subject: |
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EverettB wrote: |
hugheseum wrote: |
the early ones 55-57? are flat where they mount to the lower inner nose section,im not positive when this changed but the later ones were relief pressed on both the inner nose and splash pan |
Oh? Pics would be great, I can add it.
I know I have heard people say that the very early pans (55-56?) have some parts that are spot-welded on, like they were made in multiple pieces.
Pics needed of that as well. |
I have some pics of what you guys are talking about. If youd like em better i can get em, just need some time..LOL.
My bus is late july early august 57 and has the pressed bumps in the front inner valance. I was just PMing lind about this cause i dont know if the pan i have is correct or not. The pan has the flat steering box area, but has bumps in the back for push pin brake switch, and my bus would have had a screw terminal brake switch. It also has the 3 pressings on the front edge of the pan, to coincide with the bumps i have on my inner valance. Its so the bolts go in at an angle upward. Easier to get tools onto, and pushes pan up into place as you tighten it.
One last oddity. It seems that on whatever bus this pan was for, the outer most 2 rear pan slots where they mount to the body, are further rearward than the 2 in the center, mainly just the driver rear. Whereas my bus has all 4 bolts straight acrossed the back edge. Once i worked it a tad, it fit perfect with a lil bit of spring load which is nice IMO, it wont rattle.
Pics:
Hope those help. Ev if you want take what you need, delete my post, whatever.
Ill be posting these in my buses thread anyways. That was my original intent. But then saw this post and i like to help add to the knowledge base so. _________________ Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude.
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LAGrunthaner Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:22 am Post subject: Re: Pedal pan / Front splash pan |
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Where does that little metal tab go into? And more importantly what is it for?
Great thread thanks.
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phil1957 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:30 am Post subject: |
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it should go in this notch in the frame
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LAGrunthaner Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:48 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Phil1957 especially for the photo I learn best with images:wink:
What is the last year frame for that notch or did they all have them?
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it should go in this notch in the frame
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Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon. |
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Stocknazi Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:27 am Post subject: |
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for reference, my january 61 kombi has the earlier style pan, w/o the raised steering box area _________________ WANTED:
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This term needs to be added to the dictionary..LOL unless ea. time I go to look it up I mispell the word |
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