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Peter_N Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2014 Posts: 321 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: Pedal pan / Front splash pan |
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I just got this one for my '58 bus. I actually didn't realize that there were differences between years, until I found this topic. Great info!
I planned to get the underbody coating off and have it sandblasted, but the amount and quality of original paint is stunning
Is this a '67 model because of the MC cutout?
Will it fit on my '58?
Thanks all! _________________ My 1958 PGSG project topic |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24643 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:22 pm Post subject: Re: Pedal pan / Front splash pan |
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See page 1 on how to cut an earlier pan to make it a 1967. Should fit fine. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3775 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:07 am Post subject: Re: Pedal pan / Front splash pan |
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Peter_N wrote: |
Is this a '67 model because of the MC cutout?
Will it fit on my '58?
Thanks all! |
I imagine it will fit on your 58 but it is not correct for that year.
Maybe try to find someone that has a 67 and needs your pan. |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3775 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:42 am Post subject: Re: Pedal pan / Front splash pan |
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I found a pedal pan for my January 1957. It has some type of fabric tape on a couple of the mounting edges. Anyone see anything like this before?
It seems like a good idea to keep the underneath primer paint from getting scratched up, and maybe some minor sealing effect too?
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20217 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:18 pm Post subject: Re: Pedal pan / Front splash pan |
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I have seen remnants of that cloth tape, too. Not sure of its exact construction, but it seemed to be an attempt to seal off the front edge of the pan where it meets the inside of that front valence. _________________ nothing |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24643 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:24 pm Post subject: Re: Pedal pan / Front splash pan |
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Think that tape would just hold in water, dirt to cause rust. Sealing any edge with all the big holes in the pan would be a waste of effort. Suppose if you really want to protect the underside primer you could glue rubber washers around each bolt hole in the pan. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3775 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:28 pm Post subject: Re: Pedal pan / Front splash pan |
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Hardware for the pedal pan -
Here are the screws and washers for the sides (usually seems to be two on each side).
The front and rear are just 6mmx10mm long with 10mm heads. Plus a washer. |
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Stocknazi Samba Member
Joined: June 18, 2004 Posts: 5144
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:04 pm Post subject: Re: Pedal pan / Front splash pan |
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cdennisg wrote: |
I have seen remnants of that cloth tape, too. Not sure of its exact construction, but it seemed to be an attempt to seal off the front edge of the pan where it meets the inside of that front valence. |
That looks like the same cloth tape that I found on my safari window hinges. _________________ WANTED:
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D-train Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2007 Posts: 1446
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:58 pm Post subject: Re: Pedal pan / Front splash pan |
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Rhd early pedal pan, seems to be painted black not grey.
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Riff Raff Shivering Sambian
Joined: October 25, 2004 Posts: 3096 Location: Alberta
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:43 pm Post subject: Re: Pedal pan / Front splash pan |
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EverettB wrote: |
Earlier pans (55-57?) have this highlighted area spot welded on - note this first pan shown was identified by a member as a 65-66 pan and is just highlighted for reference
Actual pan:
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Small update to the dating of the spotwelded lip.
I pulled the pedal pan from the 306 Kombi. Much of this bus is original and unmolested and I have no reason to believe the pedal pan is not original to the bus.
The pedal pan has the spot welded lip and the bus is an early September 1958, so the spot welded lip went that late anyhow. It also has the non recess front face.
There are remnants of the cloth strip used to seal the pedal pan to the bus all the way around, not just on the front of the pan.
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Okie Adam Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2003 Posts: 1345 Location: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOklahoma
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:18 am Post subject: Re: Pedal pan / Front splash pan |
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My friend was needing a pedal pan for his bus so I got mine down the other day to see if I could help him out and I noticed some differences that I thought I'd share.
There are two early flat pans in my stash and there is a minor difference. It does not look like a hack job to me. The "missing" piece has a rounded cut in the corner and doesn't look damaged otherwise.
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1cool21 Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2003 Posts: 22
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:05 am Post subject: Re: Pedal pan / Front splash pan |
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I’m adding a nice OG splash pan. Is it simply bolted to the frame? I have the bolt/washer kit but wondering if any seal goes in between frame and splash pan?? Thanks in advance! |
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velvetgreen Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2004 Posts: 2730 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:43 am Post subject: Re: Pedal pan / Front splash pan |
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On a somewhat unrelated note I unfortunately bought the CIP repro pedal pan.. FAIL!
https://www.cip1.ca/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC%2D211%2D703%2D611%2DB
it is off in so many ways (mounting holes stamped in wrong location, profile of metal doesn't fit underside profile of bus too well- sheet metal is too tight around steering box etc etc) it it debatable why they even went to the bother of offering it. Does anyone make a decent repro or is it better buying used? |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24643 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:18 pm Post subject: Re: Pedal pan / Front splash pan |
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1cool21 wrote: |
I’m adding a nice OG splash pan. Is it simply bolted to the frame? I have the bolt/washer kit but wondering if any seal goes in between frame and splash pan?? Thanks in advance! |
Lots of images earlier in this thread show the bolt holes.
Read the posts at the top of page 5 for the "seal" info. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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Busstom Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2014 Posts: 3763 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: Pedal pan / Front splash pan |
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velvetgreen wrote: |
Does anyone make a decent repro or is it better buying used? |
Is there something wrong with the one from Wolfsburg West? I've got to imagine it's reasonably accurate, most stuff from them is.
http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=211703609B
The only thing that would tip me off that it's NOT accurate is that it doesn't carry the "Made by Wolfsburg West" claim (and thus comes from somewhere else, like Klokkerholm or...). It does look like the same CIP offering, but I see a few very minor differences. |
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velvetgreen Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2004 Posts: 2730 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: Pedal pan / Front splash pan |
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I don't recall the brand name on the CIP splash pan but it was made by a third party. Shame to put all that effort into repopping it and miss out on the basics |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69696 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Eric&Barb wrote: |
The bolts are same as used on the gen tin to bolt to the fan shroud.
Think the self tapping screws were later fix for stripped holes.
http://www.oacdp.org/5867part/345.png
Shows the 6x10 bolts quantity as 8 per bus.
The larger diameter 6.3 x 13 self tapping bolts #29 on the other hand has an "X" for quantity. |
Saw this post today due to a search from another thread asking about the bolts/screws and thought I would reply.
While I agree those could be used as a fix for stripped bolts and that may explain the "X", there are more than 8 mounting spots so I think there are 8 bolts used and an "X" (unknown?) number of tapping screws used on a lot of Buses.
I made a diagram below of what I have seen
1-8 are bolts
9-12 are the self-tapping screws
Post from above with similar info:
nlorntson wrote: |
Hardware for the pedal pan -
Here are the screws and washers for the sides (usually seems to be two on each side).
The front and rear are just 6mmx10mm long with 10mm heads. Plus a washer. |
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earlywesty Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2004 Posts: 2356 Location: In the woods, Ontario
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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EverettB wrote: |
Eric&Barb wrote: |
The bolts are same as used on the gen tin to bolt to the fan shroud.
Think the self tapping screws were later fix for stripped holes.
http://www.oacdp.org/5867part/345.png
Shows the 6x10 bolts quantity as 8 per bus.
The larger diameter 6.3 x 13 self tapping bolts #29 on the other hand has an "X" for quantity. |
Saw this post today due to a search from another thread asking about the bolts/screws and thought I would reply.
While I agree those could be used as a fix for stripped bolts and that may explain the "X", there are more than 8 mounting spots so I think there are 8 bolts used and an "X" (unknown?) number of tapping screws used on a lot of Buses.
I made a diagram below of what I have seen
1-8 are bolts
9-12 are the self-tapping screws
Post from above with similar info:
nlorntson wrote: |
Hardware for the pedal pan -
Here are the screws and washers for the sides (usually seems to be two on each side).
The front and rear are just 6mmx10mm long with 10mm heads. Plus a washer. |
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This is what is on most og buses I have seen |
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Who.Me? Samba Member
Joined: July 14, 2014 Posts: 2182 Location: UK (South)
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: Pedal pan / Front splash pan |
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I dug out the pan that I bought a few years ago, but never fitted and offered it up this afternoon.
I have a dual circuit master cylinder conversion and a Bay window anti-roll bar (sway bar).
I knew that I'd need to alter the pan to work with the master cylinder, but after offering up the pan, it looks like the anti-roll bar will prevent it fitting altogether.
Has anyone with an anti-roll bar successfully fitted a splash pan? _________________ Andy
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24643 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 2:22 pm Post subject: Re: Pedal pan / Front splash pan |
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Who.Me? wrote: |
Has anyone with an anti-roll bar successfully fitted a splash pan? |
Think it started in late 1965 for the start of anti-roll bar stock, and continued thru 1966-67 model years with a stock pedal pan. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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