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Conq DP Samba Member
Joined: March 22, 2010 Posts: 12 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:07 am Post subject: Shower in T3 Dehler Profi |
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Hi all!
I`m from Moscow, Russia. I have Dehler Profi, here it is
with an interior looks like this official photo:
and it hasn`t shower there...
But recently I found at www.dehler-profi.de another official photos with shower inside the bus!!
Like this:
or this:
Where can I buy this shower set (plastic with sink or maybe, tank for water, I`m sorry, I don`t know)?? And how can I install it in my VW?
Please, help me! |
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levi Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2005 Posts: 5522 Location: Las Vegas
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DAIZEE Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2010 Posts: 7552 Location: Greater Toronto Area Ontario West Side
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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How much does your van cost in Russia? Are they all finished like the pictures you posted? That's a busy little van! _________________ '09 2.5L Jetta 5 cylinder, 5 spd, super turbo, see thread in H2O Cooled Jetta, etc...
83.5 Vanagon L Riviera Model with 98 1.9L TD AAZ 4 speed Daily Driver 3 out of 4 seasons (sold)
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GMByers Samba Member
Joined: December 07, 2008 Posts: 642 Location: Retired in NW PA
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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Cong DP,
The Dehler-profi was never imported into the US.
Below is a German website for the Dehler-profi.
http://www.dehler-profi.de/
Also check http://www.vwbusland.de/ The club is having their annual treffen 11-13.06.2010
I actually attended this same Dehler-profi camping event a few years back in my 02 Eurovan. Even though I was not in a profi, they still let me join their camping.
Gary _________________ And then there were two...downsized to 83 Doka &
74 Thing. |
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Conq DP Samba Member
Joined: March 22, 2010 Posts: 12 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:16 am Post subject: |
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2 all:
Thank for your answers
2 Gary:
I`m afraid, I couldn`t get to this meeting I`m too far...
Simba'sWestyWings wrote: |
How much does your van cost in Russia? Are they all finished like the pictures you posted? That's a busy little van! |
It is unique bus in Moscow, but I bought it rather cheap - it costs 70.000 russian roubles, it is near 2.400 US dollar
I want to make it camper van, not busy
Thanks!
Maybe, somebody sells this shower in this or another sites? I couldn`t find... |
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DAIZEE Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2010 Posts: 7552 Location: Greater Toronto Area Ontario West Side
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:34 am Post subject: |
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sorry "busy" as in a LOT of stuff! _________________ '09 2.5L Jetta 5 cylinder, 5 spd, super turbo, see thread in H2O Cooled Jetta, etc...
83.5 Vanagon L Riviera Model with 98 1.9L TD AAZ 4 speed Daily Driver 3 out of 4 seasons (sold)
84 Vanagon GL Wolfsburg Westy WBX 4 speed (sold) |
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Conq DP Samba Member
Joined: March 22, 2010 Posts: 12 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:45 am Post subject: |
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Simba'sWestyWings wrote: |
sorry "busy" as in a LOT of stuff! |
When I bough it, there are not a lot of stuff in the bus interior
There are little cooker, a sink, two sofa-beds, shelf over the beds, little fridge, camper awning and solar battery...
And also I want a shower there |
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droogvan Samba Member
Joined: July 29, 2005 Posts: 258 Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Those Profi's are cool and I love those double pane windows. I remember one came up for sale on here a couple years back in I thiink Minnesota. Is it possible that he's the first Vanagon owner on the forum from Russia? Welcome to the madness and please post progress on your van! _________________ 89 Westy zetec
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DehlerPEB Samba Member
Joined: January 13, 2010 Posts: 111 Location: Germany, Augsburg
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:18 am Post subject: Dehler Profi T3 |
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OK,
There have been a couple of different interiour options for the Dehler Profi T3. Based on the fact that they are "Build to Order", so every one of these cars is somehow unique.
A) Shower:
Not all of them have the shower, based on the fact that some owneres decided that a 2nd sink would make more sense. Also, that is quite often good for you, because that normally means less rust in the car...... (To shower in the car is possible, but as always: Water in the car needs to get out, and if you have a not noticed leak the water goes its way ...)
B) Inserting a Shower into the car:
I would recommend against it. First, the rust issue. 2nd, if you have a shower, then you will have a small side-window instead of the large sidewindow without the shower. So, either you completely close the window (--> issue with air circulation, wet air inside ..) or you go through the hazzle to also get a small window or remodel the car to work around this.
Next issue there is, that quite often the shower units that go up for sale have some broken / damaged parts. That is not only prone for the shower units, more for the complete interiour. That is build out of plastics, and the parts that make this plastics flexible dissolve over the years, makeing the parts easy to break or be fragile. Reworking and restoration of these material is doable but cumbersome ...
Also, the picture you posted shows the shower of a 2+2 model. This is visible due to the fact that the door opens to the right -- the normal T3 had the opening to the left.
With all that added hazzle, I'd suggest that you enjoy the "tea kitchen" option. What of course would be an additional option is that you (somehow) get the warm water option that had also a possible option to be ordered). These units are also available from marina suppliers for boats. They either operate on 220V, 12V or by using the engine water to heat up the 10 to 15 liters of water up to 60 degree Celsius. With a modification on the tea sink (the cupboard right behind the drivers seat) you could then get a longer hose and take the shower directly in front of the sliding door. Advantages. Showering outside means no wet air inside
I've re-fitted my 2+2 with a longer hose to shower outside. Means also that my car (interiour) can still be warm inside but not with wet air. So, after Skiing, you take a short showerr outside and get back into the warm, cozy car .... marvelous!!
C) Interiour:
Some of the cars have been only equiped with a "Business Setup", that means the even did not have the 2-stove cooking option. Instead they head there a really huge space for the dishes, (plates, cups ..etc)
In 19901991, the last of the cars where build with 150 Blue-Stars and 50 Whitestars as a basis. They had a slightly different floorplan for the build,
If you have any question on the background / about these cars, feel free to email me. I li'm from Germany and have driven a 1986 Dehler Profi T3 (2.2 Subi Powerplant, LPG Conversion etc. etc .. unfortunately R.I.P after a roll-over) and now have / own a 1991 Dehler T3 Whitestar 2+2.
Regards
peb |
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drglaubnix Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2010 Posts: 21 Location: Brunswiek, Germany
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Hi CongDP,
welcome to the Dehler-Owners.
A shower-booth is very hard to get, but anyway you don't want to shower in the Bus,
it is too much humidity, as the VW-busses tend to produce rust all by themselves.
Here is mine (the first pic, no sh..) http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehler_Mobilbau
take care _________________ Greetings
Jürgen
Dehler Profi 1988
95 PS WBX MV
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Conq DP Samba Member
Joined: March 22, 2010 Posts: 12 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 5:39 am Post subject: |
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droogvan wrote: |
Those Profi's are cool and I love those double pane windows. I remember one came up for sale on here a couple years back in I thiink Minnesota. Is it possible that he's the first Vanagon owner on the forum from Russia? Welcome to the madness and please post progress on your van! |
Thanks!
I`m only owner Dehler in Moscow, and I think only Russian Vanagon owner on the forum
2 DehlerPEB
Thank you for great answer
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some owneres decided that a 2nd sink would make more sense |
I`m not in their number exactly It`s enough to me one sink, no more
I `m not sorry about wndow... I prefer it shower.
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Next issue there is, that quite often the shower units that go up for sale have some broken / damaged parts. |
I hope, I can find good parts. If they are broken, I can order to make new of plastic, it is not very expensive
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So, after Skiing, you take a short showerr outside and get back into the warm, cozy car .... marvelous!! |
Maybe... But it seems to me, that T2 Westfalia with wood-stuff interior is cosier and warmer than T3 plastic interior. But I couldn`t find T2 camper for sale in Russia...
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Some of the cars have been only equiped with a "Business Setup", that means the even did not have the 2-stove cooking option. Instead they head there a really huge space for the dishes, (plates, cups ..etc) |
Really? I didn`t know it... Why to have huge space for the dishes if haven`t got a stove?? I can`t understand it.
Have you got photos of yours Dehelers? I will be glad to see it
Regards
drglaubnix wrote: |
VW-busses tend to produce rust all by themselves |
I`m disagree with you. Even in Russia, with our wet and severe climate, T3 buses aren`t produce much rust, if people take care of him. |
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Conq DP Samba Member
Joined: March 22, 2010 Posts: 12 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 5:43 am Post subject: |
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Conq DP wrote: |
droogvan wrote: |
Those Profi's are cool and I love those double pane windows. I remember one came up for sale on here a couple years back in I thiink Minnesota. Is it possible that he's the first Vanagon owner on the forum from Russia? Welcome to the madness and please post progress on your van! |
Thanks!
I`m only owner Dehler in Moscow, and I think only Russian Vanagon owner on the forum
2 DehlerPEB
Thank you for great answer
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some owneres decided that a 2nd sink would make more sense |
I`m not in their number exactly It`s enough to me one sink, no more
I `m not sorry about wndow... I prefer it shower.
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Next issue there is, that quite often the shower units that go up for sale have some broken / damaged parts. |
I hope, I can find good parts. If they are broken, I can order to make new of plastic, it is not very expensive
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So, after Skiing, you take a short showerr outside and get back into the warm, cozy car .... marvelous!! |
Maybe... But it seems to me, that T2 Westfalia with wood-stuff interior is cosier and warmer than T3 plastic interior. But I couldn`t find T2 camper for sale in Russia...
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Some of the cars have been only equiped with a "Business Setup", that means the even did not have the 2-stove cooking option. Instead they head there a really huge space for the dishes, (plates, cups ..etc) |
Really? I didn`t know it... Why to have huge space for the dishes if you haven`t got a stove?? I can`t understand it.
Have you got photos of yours Dehelers? I will be glad to see it
Regards
drglaubnix wrote: |
VW-busses tend to produce rust all by themselves |
I`m disagree with you. Even in Russia, with our wet and severe climate, T3 buses aren`t produce much rust, if people take care of him. |
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DAIZEE Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2010 Posts: 7552 Location: Greater Toronto Area Ontario West Side
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 5:56 am Post subject: |
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Cong: do they not use salt on your winter roads? I know that cold, severe cold does not rust as quickly, here in Canada and I think northern parts of USA lots of salt is used on our winter roads. In fact Toronto uses a Brine solution pre forecasted snow storms. I wish it wasn't so but its a fact that is not going away in my lifetime.
Glad you are speaking up in here. _________________ '09 2.5L Jetta 5 cylinder, 5 spd, super turbo, see thread in H2O Cooled Jetta, etc...
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westyventures Samba Member
Joined: December 29, 2004 Posts: 2306 Location: Oregon Outback
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:06 am Post subject: |
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GMByers wrote: |
The Dehler-profi was never imported into the US.
Below is a German website for the Dehler-profi.
http://www.dehler-profi.de/
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There were six officially imported into the USA in 1984. I owned one of them for a short time. Mine had the shower unit, very cleverly built interior although the choice of materials wasn't the best for long-term durability. The sink and stove folded away into the side cabinet. Small top-loaded cooler. Rear seat was shifted back a foot from where the normal van seat is, allowing for more floor space, with a removable center seat that folded out to be half of the bed or could be configured as an 'L' or turned around backwards. There was a small table with folding sides that could be used as a card table with built-in cupholders or folded out as a full sized table. Small video screen in the front storage area. Small propane tank and gas heater were nestled above the transmission in a special panel, the area of sheetmetal cut out to accept this. Graywater and freshwater tanks below. 3-foot square sliding skylight! Very cool van. It's now somewhere in the PNW. I located three of the remaining campers while I had mine - one in MN, one in a junkyard in Euegen OR, and another for sale in Oregon. I have a bunch of photos of mine if anyone would like to see them. |
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Crughy Samba Member
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levi Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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that "nice other beast" is just the dehler top, on a westy. I agree that it's a nice beast though. Sure would be nice if that nice beast was sitting in my drive. _________________ One of these days I'm gonna settle down,
but till I do I won't be hangin round.
Going down that long lonesome highway,
gonna see life my way
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ManneBk Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:42 am Post subject: |
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Conq DP wrote: |
I hope, I can find good parts. If they are broken, I can order to make new of plastic, it is not very expensive
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Hi Conq, if thats a fact, i got some parts to rebuild for you.
I do own a dehler profi from '83 and got some broken parts. i can supply the original
greetings Manne |
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fastwagens Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 1028 Location: Michigan (The other west coast)
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:19 am Post subject: |
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If these weren't so rare I'd be all over one |
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fastwagens Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:19 am Post subject: |
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If these weren't so rare I'd be all over one |
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drglaubnix Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2010 Posts: 21 Location: Brunswiek, Germany
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Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 4:40 am Post subject: Re: Shower in T3 Dehler Profi |
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Hi Cong,
there is a front bumper here
<http://cgi.ebay.de/VW-T2-T3-Bus-Stosstange-vorne-Multivan-Whitestar-Dehler-/170488881765?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Autoteile_Zubeh%C3%B6r&hash=item27b1ede265>
Have fun _________________ Greetings
Jürgen
Dehler Profi 1988
95 PS WBX MV
Build number 1156 |
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