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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:47 pm    Post subject: Floor mats Reply with quote

Glad to hear that people like the mats my brother makes.It took me almost a year to devise an economical method to reproduce these mats and john was instrumental in supplying me with a bunch of old mats to use as models.I think he told me that he's reproducing or about to reproduce other year "sets" and misc rubber interior pieces.Im very pleased that people really like these sets as it was a real labor of love for me to make these reproductions come to life though I must admit John really ran with the whole thing .Thanks Dave Lemke Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Floor mats Reply with quote

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Glad to hear that people like the mats my brother makes.It took me almost a year to devise an economical method to reproduce these mats and john was instrumental in supplying me with a bunch of old mats to use as models.I think he told me that he's reproducing or about to reproduce other year "sets" and misc rubber interior pieces.Im very pleased that people really like these sets as it was a real labor of love for me to make these reproductions come to life though I must admit John really ran with the whole thing .Thanks Dave Lemke Very Happy


Yes, my brother Dave deserves the credit of developing the process to make the mats - I should have made that point long ago.
Thanks Dave!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John, how is the progress coming along with the production of lowlight bulkhead mats? Inquiring minds want to know...thx-Russ
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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John, how is the progress coming along with the production of lowlight bulkhead mats? Inquiring minds want to know...thx-Russ


Hi Russ,

S L O W L Y but surely - this thing called "life" causes some delays at times. It is still in the works.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John, can you send me your phone number via pm if you wish. I would like to discuss the mats. Thanks Geoff
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 9:37 pm    Post subject: Update on mat production? Reply with quote

Anyone with recent experience obtaining mats? I'd love to get my feet on a set!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FYI
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Early Rubber Floor Mat Reproduction Reply with quote

For those that have been waiting for an opportunity to obtain these:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2125949
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Early Rubber Floor Mat Reproduction Reply with quote

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For those that have been waiting for an opportunity to obtain these:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2125949

wow! that got snapped up in a matter of seconds! sold Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Early Rubber Floor Mat Reproduction Reply with quote

sputnick60 wrote:
cruiser wrote:
For those that have been waiting for an opportunity to obtain these:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2125949

wow! that got snapped up in a matter of seconds! sold Shocked
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yep. Makes sense, Lemke=seconds. Wink

Who ever stepped up should report in. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:03 am    Post subject: Re: Early Rubber Floor Mat Reproduction Reply with quote

Not cheap but what appears to be an original set appears!

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2133852
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Early Rubber Floor Mat Reproduction Reply with quote

Just saw this thread.,,

I was the seller. Those Lemke's were (improbably) in a low milage Thing I recently bought from Oregon. I did not really know what value they had so I put them on, hoping for fairness from the Samba folks...a couple of low ballers offered under $200. Then a couple more offers quickly came in at just over double that amount- these went to a very nice guy in Australia. So I guess this is now market price for them.
I have a lo mile 70 Ghia vert..(was almost perfect, then I bashed the nose, now 'perfect' again)...my OG mats are a sort of grayish blue and in great shape, these Lemke were black and very shiny - almost slippery - I did not think they were anything special until I looked closely and saw the name and recalled some threads about him being hard to contact. Glad they found a good home -and wish I had more to sell-
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Early Rubber Floor Mat Reproduction Reply with quote

Guess these things, like money, is growing on trees. Dime a dozen.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2139107
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Early Rubber Floor Mat Reproduction Reply with quote

c21darrel wrote:
Guess these things, like money, is growing on trees. Dime a dozen.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2139107


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Thousands and thousands of Ghias need these mats and none of the big players can get them produced, it's unfathomable.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:24 am    Post subject: Re: Early Rubber Floor Mat Reproduction Reply with quote

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c21darrel wrote:
Guess these things, like money, is growing on trees. Dime a dozen.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2139107


WTheGenuineF

Thousands and thousands of Ghias need these mats and none of the big players can get them produced, it's unfathomable.


I don't know the demand is that high otherwise they probably would be produced.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:54 am    Post subject: Re: Early Rubber Floor Mat Reproduction Reply with quote

NOVA Airhead wrote:
Braukuche wrote:
c21darrel wrote:
Guess these things, like money, is growing on trees. Dime a dozen.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2139107


WTheGenuineF

Thousands and thousands of Ghias need these mats and none of the big players can get them produced, it's unfathomable.


I don't know the demand is that high otherwise they probably would be produced.

Judging by the prices of the few sets that's pop up occasionally it sure looks like there is.
You cannot do a correct Restoration at this point without them for most years of Ghia. It's like doing a split bus and putting carpeting in the cargo area and the front floor. No one does that because, surprise, you can get the mats and for a reasonable price and from several competitors.
This just indicates to me that people don't take the cars serious enough to provide or demand the products needed to restore them correctly.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Early Rubber Floor Mat Reproduction Reply with quote

c21darrel wrote:
Guess these things, like money, is growing on trees. Dime a dozen.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2139107

I know Paul. He’s quite the purist. He really gets into the details.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Early Rubber Floor Mat Reproduction Reply with quote

^^No doubt.
if ghia floor mats ever get repopped, im sure original sets will still bring good money.
@Dan, aren't their plenty of parts from Westys that are repopped and originals are still desirable and expensive?
At least there would be a choice.
There are faux Fuchs and the price of OG Fuchs is sky high and higher than when the recent EMPI and Flat4 Fuchs hit the market.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Early Rubber Floor Mat Reproduction Reply with quote

c21darrel wrote:
^^No doubt.
if ghia floor mats ever get repopped, im sure original sets will still bring good money.
@Dan, aren't their plenty of parts from Westys that are repopped and originals are still desirable and expensive?
At least there would be a choice.
There are faux Fuchs and the price of OG Fuchs is sky high and higher than when the recent EMPI and Flat4 Fuchs hit the market.


For sure, you can get pretty much anything for a Westy through small scale production and you pay out the nose for it but at least it's available.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:41 am    Post subject: Re: Early Rubber Floor Mat Reproduction Reply with quote

Braukuche wrote:
NOVA Airhead wrote:
Braukuche wrote:
c21darrel wrote:
Guess these things, like money, is growing on trees. Dime a dozen.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2139107


WTheGenuineF

Thousands and thousands of Ghias need these mats and none of the big players can get them produced, it's unfathomable.


I don't know the demand is that high otherwise they probably would be produced.

Judging by the prices of the few sets that's pop up occasionally it sure looks like there is.
You cannot do a correct Restoration at this point without them for most years of Ghia. It's like doing a split bus and putting carpeting in the cargo area and the front floor. No one does that because, surprise, you can get the mats and for a reasonable price and from several competitors.
This just indicates to me that people don't take the cars serious enough to provide or demand the products needed to restore them correctly.


Going by the topic of this thread - Early Rubber Floor Mat Reproduction - I don't see a huge demand as the focus would be lowlights. There are just not that many but the people restoring the cars typically want perfection, hence the cost of the few mats that are out there. If you already have spent many tens of thousands of dollars on a restoration, another thousand probably does not seem like an issue. However it does not seem that the economics support reproducing lowlight mats.

If you look at the wider Ghia production then the potential demand would be greater but I'm not sure of the applicability across years. I restored three later model cars and while I took great pains for accuracy on the last car I would have no interest in rubber mats, even if they are correct. The car was never driven in bad weather. IMO carpeted mats or cocoa type mats look much better.
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