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hsosa1 Samba Member
Joined: January 17, 2005 Posts: 1897 Location: Fontana
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:18 pm Post subject: How to Install Fram external Oil |
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Ive had this kit for a few years and I need some help. Ive searched and looked at pics . Is there a exploded diagram or how to hook this up? Its a kit from WOB . I have the hollow stud that goes on the base of the generator stand. I dont think Im missing much maybe a few bolts. Also If anyone can point out if Im missing any pieces. Thanks for any help out there.
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
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hsosa1 Samba Member
Joined: January 17, 2005 Posts: 1897 Location: Fontana
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:08 am Post subject: |
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Its just the regular kit. Not for a judson.which bracket is for the judson? I had this kit stored with a judson supercharger. Thanks for the help _________________ Just Cruzin Sur Califas VW Car Club est♤1998 |
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
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Pharquarx Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2005 Posts: 249 Location: Southern California (Orange County)
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:22 am Post subject: |
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_________________ Charlie
Stock 67 Vert Under Restoration
1958 Lambretta TV175 Series 1
1957 Vespa Messerschmitt 150 GS
1951 Douglas Vespa Rod Type (First month of production!!!)
1970 Triumph T120R (Bonneville)
1950 Vincent Comet
1952 Moto Rumi Sport 125
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hsosa1 Samba Member
Joined: January 17, 2005 Posts: 1897 Location: Fontana
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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Great this helps me out . Looks ur using the twisted piece that I have with the small overhang tabs. Great. It must be a bitch to install this part with the engine in the car.. Ok I know there s a that plastic holddown that holds down the two copper pipes that run over the fanshroud. How does the banjo end work? more pics if u have them . Thanks for posting the pics . Im assuming these pics are for a judson setup. the lines look longer. _________________ Just Cruzin Sur Califas VW Car Club est♤1998 |
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Pharquarx Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2005 Posts: 249 Location: Southern California (Orange County)
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Can't do it with the engine in. I am waiting for a new setup from Steph, should be here any day, to support my Judson installation. I will take a sequence of photos as it comes together over the next week, including the Fram Filter installation, and post them. _________________ Charlie
Stock 67 Vert Under Restoration
1958 Lambretta TV175 Series 1
1957 Vespa Messerschmitt 150 GS
1951 Douglas Vespa Rod Type (First month of production!!!)
1970 Triumph T120R (Bonneville)
1950 Vincent Comet
1952 Moto Rumi Sport 125
1973 Ducati 750 Sport |
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Pharquarx Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2005 Posts: 249 Location: Southern California (Orange County)
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, got the new setup from Steph, so I will start to post photos of how this goes - assuming you are still interested.
First the coil must be bolted into place with the engine out of the car. I use loctite on all of the bolts and screws as there is vibration and I don't want to have anything come loose.
Next, I check the routing of the return line to the hollow stud at the distributor to make sure that it reaches and there is some flexibility. I am installing a Judson supercharger, so the routing and clearance is critical and is dependent on the mounting of the coil.
More over the next few days as I reinstall the engine, mount the Fram filter and route the flex lines. _________________ Charlie
Stock 67 Vert Under Restoration
1958 Lambretta TV175 Series 1
1957 Vespa Messerschmitt 150 GS
1951 Douglas Vespa Rod Type (First month of production!!!)
1970 Triumph T120R (Bonneville)
1950 Vincent Comet
1952 Moto Rumi Sport 125
1973 Ducati 750 Sport |
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hsosa1 Samba Member
Joined: January 17, 2005 Posts: 1897 Location: Fontana
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Question on the stud on the generator stand . I have two pieces Im assuming there is the stud and then a smaller stud with a hole that goes in as well? If u look at the picture you can see the two black studs bottom center. Keep posting those pics . Thanks _________________ Just Cruzin Sur Califas VW Car Club est♤1998 |
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Pharquarx Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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This?
_________________ Charlie
Stock 67 Vert Under Restoration
1958 Lambretta TV175 Series 1
1957 Vespa Messerschmitt 150 GS
1951 Douglas Vespa Rod Type (First month of production!!!)
1970 Triumph T120R (Bonneville)
1950 Vincent Comet
1952 Moto Rumi Sport 125
1973 Ducati 750 Sport |
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65ragtop Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:55 am Post subject: |
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I have one of these kits on order as well. Question - what does the thru bolt behind the pulley have to to with the filter install? Looks to be for the Judson support. Or am I missing something _________________ Bill Richardson
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:53 am Post subject: |
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65ragtop wrote: |
I have one of these kits on order as well. Question - what does the thru bolt behind the pulley have to to with the filter install? Looks to be for the Judson support. Or am I missing something |
Yes you're quite right...the through bolts have nothing to do with the oil line installation.
The two bolts we're talking about are the black ones in the picture...the left one is the hollow bolt that doesn't just screw into the case but holds down the distributor clamp. The right black bolt is the banjo bolt that screws into the oil pressure switch aperture and in turn, the oil pressure switch screws into the end of this. _________________ John.
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hsosa1 Samba Member
Joined: January 17, 2005 Posts: 1897 Location: Fontana
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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John Moxon wrote: |
65ragtop wrote: |
I have one of these kits on order as well. Question - what does the thru bolt behind the pulley have to to with the filter install? Looks to be for the Judson support. Or am I missing something |
Yes you're quite right...the through bolts have nothing to do with the oil line installation.
The two bolts we're talking about are the black ones in the picture...the left one is the hollow bolt that doesn't just screw into the case but holds down the distributor clamp. The right black bolt is the banjo bolt that screws into the oil pressure switch aperture and in turn, the oil pressure switch screws into the end of this. |
I dont have that smaller hose with the two ends. Mine just came with one hose . _________________ Just Cruzin Sur Califas VW Car Club est♤1998 |
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dessertrcr Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2007 Posts: 33 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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where did the line kit come from? i just got a nos filter and i am building a 40hp with a judson. i need the lines.
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
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laneven28 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:34 am Post subject: |
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Anything tricky about replacing the distributor bolt with the hollow one? I'm about to install mine. _________________ 1950 Pearl Grey Hoffman Standard Split Window
1954 Iceland Green Euro 3-Fold Oval
1955 Strato Silver Transitional 3-Fold Oval
1956 Iris Blue Convertible
1958 Pearl White Lowlight KG Convertible
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Pharquarx Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2005 Posts: 249 Location: Southern California (Orange County)
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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:45 am Post subject: |
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no. _________________ Charlie
Stock 67 Vert Under Restoration
1958 Lambretta TV175 Series 1
1957 Vespa Messerschmitt 150 GS
1951 Douglas Vespa Rod Type (First month of production!!!)
1970 Triumph T120R (Bonneville)
1950 Vincent Comet
1952 Moto Rumi Sport 125
1973 Ducati 750 Sport |
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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Here are some additional photos, progress today.
Description in order:
Mounting bolts for the Fram filter, penetrates firewall, tacked into place.
Fram filter mounted.
Fram filter with hoses connected, inlet on the top, outlet on the bottom.
Outlet point for oil flow out of case, where the pressure switch is normally mounted.
Inlet flow back into the case, hollow bolt at the distributor.
Parting shot of effort today, with supercharger and carb set into place to check hood clearance.
Note that I have not hooked up the oil return line to the case. There is currently no oil in the engine. My plan is to add oil to the engine and crank it without starting to get oil back up and into the engine passages and also to fill the Fram filter loop, cooling coil and associated lines. I will do this intermittently, and with the spark plugs out to lower resistance to cranking, until I get a discharge of oil into a temporary bottle. I will then hook up the oil return to the case at the distributor hollow bolt. This "filling of the loop" will be done before I secure the supercharge into place and "belt it up". With this setup, there is a "choke" at the inlet to the Fram filter and I suspect that it is there to maintain a backpressure on the oil flow, sending oil preferentially to the case and internals with a small slip stream to the Filter loop. More Monday - unless you tell me no mas.
_________________ Charlie
Stock 67 Vert Under Restoration
1958 Lambretta TV175 Series 1
1957 Vespa Messerschmitt 150 GS
1951 Douglas Vespa Rod Type (First month of production!!!)
1970 Triumph T120R (Bonneville)
1950 Vincent Comet
1952 Moto Rumi Sport 125
1973 Ducati 750 Sport |
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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where can I get the oil lines in the U S _________________ Stocking distributor of "The Funky Green Panels"
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