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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it is Flat Four that makes the replicas although I don't know if they have the Ghia bracket.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DONGKG wrote:
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Those with a 40hp installation, please post pictures. What's the best looking option for the return line hollow bolt? A fuel pump or generator pedestal stud? Or drill & tap a hole somewhere?

Distributor clamp is not an option, that's a blind hole in a 40hp case.


I did the drill and tap into the genny stand. There is a rounded area cast into it for some reason. It was the perfect size for the hollow bolt to thread into.

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This setup came with an Okrasa oil cooler but I eliminated it because it's just a bad idea. It warms the air that is supposed to cool the motor but I doubt it did much to cool the oil. Preheating air that then is supposed to cool oil in the factory oil cooler seams counter-productive to me. Confused


Firstly, with this setup, you can eliminate the bolt and thread the 90 degree piece straight into the generator stand - more or less exactly as Porsche did on its early engines.

And secondly, the oil cooler in front of the fan intake can be seen from an engineering point of view as nothing more than increasing the area of the existing oil cooler. There is extra capacity for it - it's not such a bad idea after all.

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I did this set up on my vw too.


I did this one, but my experience is that if the either the oil filler cup or the inlet connected to the air cleaner is not property sealed, chances are, the pressure doing from the engine will push the oil emanating from the small hole drilled through the base of the generator stand. and oil will be spilled out! So, checking regularly the oil filler cover and the inlet from the air clearer will keep the oil from spilling out.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone ever posted the actual dimensions of the oil lines? Anyone know if the 356 lines will be long enough to work on a filter installed on the fan shroud?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DONGKG wrote:

I did this one, but my experience is that if the either the oil filler cup or the inlet connected to the air cleaner is not property sealed, chances are, the pressure doing from the engine will push the oil emanating from the small hole drilled through the base of the generator stand. and oil will be spilled out! So, checking regularly the oil filler cover and the inlet from the air clearer will keep the oil from spilling out.


I did this also but I tapped the inside of the through hole in the generator stand 1/8 NPT and installed a 1/8 NPT 90 street elbow and a short piece of 1/8 pipe to get the oil return below the baffle. I had to cut down the 1/8 NPT tap to get it to fit inside the generator stand. I cut a small hole in the baffle for the 1/8 pipe to go through. With the oil being returned below the baffle and being shot straight down into the engine, I haven't seen any problem with oil in the breather tube to the air cleaner.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jdub63 wrote:
Has anyone ever posted the actual dimensions of the oil lines? Anyone know if the 356 lines will be long enough to work on a filter installed on the fan shroud?


No, the limes are too short.
On the return line on both my cars I used a hollow Distributer stud. It's been so long I forget where I got it from.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Braukuche wrote:
jdub63 wrote:
Has anyone ever posted the actual dimensions of the oil lines? Anyone know if the 356 lines will be long enough to work on a filter installed on the fan shroud?


No, the limes are too short.
On the return line on both my cars I used a hollow Distributer stud. It's been so long I forget where I got it from.



Hi,
you can produce them on your own, my first attempt was very good. You need a M8 allen screw. First step is to drill a hole in it from the top to the bottom, so it's hollow. Then you have to drill a bigger hole in the head of the screw, but not too deep!!! This hole is for the thread; in the head of your hollow screw you have to cut a M10x 1.25 thread. I'm no really sure about this thead, I'm going to have a look for it to be sure. The last thing you have to do is to screw in another hollow screw with threads on both of its side, on side has M10x1.25, the other thread is in inch, same threat size as the threat on your oil filter can...

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I don't know how Mr. Gerhard Oettinger did connected the Fram filter with his engine, but this method is quick and you don't have to drill in your engine case.
Regards, Jan

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: How to Install Fram external Oil Reply with quote

I wanted to add this picture from the gallery for future reference...


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:47 am    Post subject: Re: How to Install Fram external Oil Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

I am reopening that thread,

I have a NOS FRAM OIL Filter and Hose and looking for the studs adapters to go in and out of the 36hp engine.

Does anyone know where either find following hose kit or just the studs that connect on the engine?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:50 am    Post subject: Re: How to Install Fram external Oil Reply with quote

Here is a pic of the kit I have right now.
As you can see I am missing the stud to connect on the 36hp case.

Any help to source the right studs or hose kit as pictured above would be great

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: How to Install Fram external Oil Reply with quote

Hi Jerome,

Not exactly sure what parts you need, but I got an F3-P to replace an incorrect filter on my PreA and will be replacing the lines while I'm at it. These guys might have what you need:

http://www.partsklassik.com/c-29-engine-lubrication.aspx

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