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syncrodoka
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targis58
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ah! thanks.
and the switch from kirkmeeks.com is "not in stock" 
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syncrodoka
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Howesight
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Hey Targis58:
If you are only installing one diff lock (really all you can do with a 2WD), then consider raiding the local pick-a-part. The Audi Quattro cars from '86 to '91 all had locking centre and rear diffs which used what looks to me to be the same vacuum actuator (albeit a different mounting frame) and they used a rotary-dial vacuum switch/valve with a nice console which also had an indicator light to tell you if the lock is engaged or not. The console is on the dash in these cars.
From '92 on, the centre diff was Torsen and only the rear diff was manually lockable. On these cars, there was a push-button toggle-on toggle-off electric switch that controlled an electric vacuum valve that you can put very close to your diff lock actuator (shorter vacuum lines!). In these Audis, the push button is next to the shifter and the electric vacuum valve is under the back seat. The switch has a light in it to tell you when the locker is engaged.
One other option, really a "ghetto" approach, is to use a vacuum valve from any car using vacuum controls for the A/C system and use a separate LED light for monitoring locker engagement. |
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Orbitald
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| The Audi Quattro cars from '86 to '91 all had locking centre and rear diffs which used what looks to me to be the same vacuum actuator (albeit a different mounting frame) and they used a rotary-dial vacuum switch/valve with a nice console which also had an indicator light to tell you if the lock is engaged or not. The console is on the dash in these cars |
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tencentlife
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| On these cars, there was a push-button toggle-on toggle-off electric switch that controlled an electric vacuum valve that you can put very close to your diff lock actuator (shorter vacuum lines!). |
Yeah that's exactly what I'm all about. IF I use vacuum as a power source I'd still like to control it remotely by electrics and keep all the vac stuff short. I'm envisioning a switch setup that mounts right on the gearshift stalk, so I can work the difflock with my hand on the shifter. Then maybe double up this switch if and when I add a decoupler.
Indicator lights are a whole seprate system independent of how you do the actual locking, you can wire lights to the position switches on the diff, decoupler, or front diff, they're all there, and put your lights wherever you would like them.
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My favorite variant on the old cobbler's children thing was a friend of mine, a psychiatrist, adding "and the shrink has the meanest kid on the block".
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onwardtothestars
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| The Audi Quattro cars from '86 to '91 all had locking centre and rear diffs which used what looks to me to be the same vacuum actuator (albeit a different mounting frame) and they used a rotary-dial vacuum switch/valve with a nice console which also had an indicator light to tell you if the lock is engaged or not. The console is on the dash in these cars |
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Actually I think we'd be saying it's Quattro's from '82.
Pre-'85 Audis (also all years UrQuattro) had a pull knob kinda like a the vanagon syncro's but it was two step, first step was to lock the center diff and the second step to lock the rear diff. The Quantam Syncro's also used a knob similar to the early Audis, with the two step lock.
Orbitald - that first picture looks like the interior of a Sport Quattro.
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targis58
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So.. what s missing from van-cafe's switch is just the plastic handle?
Can hose be purchased from a hardware store? one of those clear air hose? What are those three legs for? |
Is there anything to go wrong with the switch unit itself due to the age?
If yes, is it easily repairable?
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Ok, did search but...
Can someone post a photo where locker panel is mounted on dash? I would like to see how it looks. thanks |
Just snapped that with my phone, not the best quality.
FWIW, the black plastic knob part of the switch is the same as the knobs used on late 60's -70's bugs and buses for the headlight switch, among other things....
in fact, if you can keep a secret, the left position knob on mine in the above pic is the entire headlight switch of a '70's bus. its wired to a little circuit that flashes the light for a few seconds and then turns it on solid...poor mans front locker 
I only did that because the previous owner cut an unsightly hole there to install an aftermarket gauge that just flopped out of the little hole.
In real life they look exactly the same, but the picture they look different because of the angle.
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