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scotty timmerman Samba Member
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chris fryer Samba Member
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5500 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: Installing okrasa engine with idf manifolds |
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Measure the width of your engine compartment (make sure to add for the rubber seals on each side).
Measure the engine width from outer edge of one manifold to the outer edge of the other.
Compare the two widths. This should give you an idea.
Apples to oranges but my SG Zenith manifolds installed on a 69 x 80 WW kitted motor cleared a stock 57 beetle engine bay nicely. |
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evanfrucht Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:20 pm Post subject: Re: Installing okrasa engine with idf manifolds |
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You are going to want to remove both manifolds and carbs for engine install. It's the easiest way unless you have a lift and some other fancy equipment to really tilt the engine easily as it goes in...
If you don't pull the carbs and manifolds it will suck to install the engine the normal home garage way _________________ 1967 Bug ( the daily rod )
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PeteSC Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:44 am Post subject: Re: Installing okrasa engine with idf manifolds |
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I have the Speedwell IDF manifolds, so my experience is based on that. Perhaps Stefi's are narrower, but if they are it's hard to imagine it's a significant amount - my carbs seem to sit farily close to the shroud.
I'll second for removing both to install. Thanks to the dreaded 3rd manifold bolt under the shroud, if you have to remove the shroud to dig that far into your engine to remove one, you may as well remove them both.
In my case I'm not certain I could have safely tilted the engine enough with the manifolds on to shoehorn it in all together without the heads causing a problem as the engine were shifted to get the lower manifold to clear, if you can envision that.
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evanfrucht Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:44 am Post subject: Re: Installing okrasa engine with idf manifolds |
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PeteSC wrote: |
In my case I'm not certain I could have safely tilted the engine enough with the manifolds on to shoehorn it in all together without the heads causing a problem as the engine were shifted to get the lower manifold to clear, if you can envision that.
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It very well could be impossible without scratching or denting something. _________________ 1967 Bug ( the daily rod )
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mkbug Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: Installing okrasa engine with idf manifolds |
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you also should keep your cylinder tins loose too. Its a bit of a struggle to get it all together. Patience is the key. _________________ I'm Martin
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esde Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: Installing okrasa engine with idf manifolds |
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I can't imagine it's possible with both carbs on, maybe one, but for what gain? I think tipping then engine to try to get one side up and in, you risk dropping it or bending something. _________________ modok wrote:
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scotty timmerman Samba Member
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TomSimon Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:10 pm Post subject: Re: Installing okrasa engine with idf manifolds |
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With a dual carbureted 1600 'big block' (as my friend Burly calls them) it's accepted practice to set everything up on the engine stand, linkage, fuel lines, air cleaners twaeked and finished on the engine stand where you have easy access. Then remove the manifolds with carbs attached, and linkage, install the engine, re-bolt up everything after the engine is in the car. _________________ 2-time NASA Pro Racing Champion, Bonneville 130 Club and 150 Club Memeber, BRS Pro Gas racer |
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chris fryer Samba Member
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