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TinCanFab Samba Member
Joined: April 04, 2006 Posts: 2743 Location: Waterford, California
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:13 am Post subject: 1960 Bastard Fusebox help needed |
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I have a March 60 single cab vin num 586XXX and I can not find pics or an explanation of how the 8 fuse bakelite box and flasher are supposed to mount. The bracket under the dash looks just like one from a 57 I looked at. Am I missing a bracket or something? It mounts w 2 screws instead of one. When I install new kick panels, I want it to be in the right spot so it looks correct. Thanks |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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Hope this helps!! From our DEC 1959 built, 1960 model walk thru panel camper conversion.
The later flasher in the image has its own holder bracket. The bracket this later holder bracket is bolted to should be the OG baklite flasher bracket, but bent 90 degrees to work with the later flasher.
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crofty Judas of the North
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:12 am Post subject: |
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=792813
Maybe those pics will help. _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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bill may Samba Member
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Clara Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:25 am Post subject: |
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ya, there is a 8 fuse screw terminal fuse box used only for later 1960 buses. I didn't find a pic of it in the gallery. It looks a lot like the one Eric & Barb posted a pic of, except it is wider as it has 8 instead of 6 fuses.
I think the fuse box mounting on the body is the same as 3/55-early 60
As there are two holes in the fuse box and two holes in the mount on the body, it should be straightforward. Ignore the yellow arrow.
as of VIN 614 xxx when they went to push terminals they used this kind:
from the classifieds:
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crofty Judas of the North
Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 19672 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:30 am Post subject: |
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Clara wrote: |
ya, there is a 8 fuse screw terminal fuse box used only for later 1960 buses. I didn't find a pic of it in the gallery. It looks a lot like the one Eric & Barb posted a pic of, except it is wider as it has 8 instead of 6 fuses. |
Looks just like this.
The bracket that holds the larg 6 volt flasher is bolted to the back of the block with the left side mounting screw. _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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bloovw Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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this looks like the wireing of a hotel i stayed in when i was in india... |
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TinCanFab Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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OK, I think maybe I have a different style 8 fuse bakelite box. I got it at a swap and it is slightly different maybe then the ones you guys posted. I'll post pics of what I have tomorrow. It still has the German labels on the paper tag, except mine fits in the lid, not under the fuses themselves. I also think I remember that the wire positions are different on the paper label, than from Bently wiring positions. Maybe it went to some other old German vehicle? |
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Anchovy Samba Member
Joined: August 05, 2000 Posts: 2922 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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One key element to check on your fuse box is which circuits are piggy-backed. Another photo from the same ad for the 8 fuse holder shows 3 pairs of circuits are combined:
If you get a generic box that does not have jumpers on the back, you can use bridges to combine circuits as necessary. Here is a bridge from one of my ads:
You can also use a short section of wire to jumper the circuits but then your wiring will look like the above mentioned Indian hotel. |
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TinCanFab Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:41 am Post subject: |
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TinCanFab Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:42 am Post subject: |
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TinCanFab Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:44 am Post subject: |
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This is obviously the wrong fusebox, the mounting holes are about 90 mm apart! Anyone know what this goes to? A Porsche or Mercedes or something? I did get it at a steal and it was mixed with VW parts, so I assumed it was the one I needed. It has a logo with the letters L and K fused together like one letter, inside of a circle. |
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Anchovy Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Your mystery fuse box has a broken fuse tab so it is probably best just to buy a new one. |
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TinCanFab Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:27 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I noticed that. But I planned on wiring it like a 6 fuse 59, and using the extra for fog lights or the seat heaters I robbed from an Infiniti. I'm mostly going for the correct look |
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Anchovy Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:51 am Post subject: |
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You should consider a 6 fuse unit for the stock stuff, and then add a separate two fuse holder for the accessories you mention:
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BulliBill Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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After searching unsuccessfully, is there at thread showing the various VW fuseboxes, their year and model applications fuse and "bridge" connection and applications?
I have one that I can't quite figure out.
It has a rectangular shape that is the same footprint as the 1959-ish 6-fuse fusebox. But instead of a flat cover, it has a domed cover. In the following photo, the closer box is the WW supplied Bus 6-fuse box for comparison.
The one below on the left is the typical Bus box from WW, the domed one on the right.
In the shot below, the WW box is below the domed one.
With the cover off, the paper legend is on the cover, not under the fuses.
Notice how the second and last fuse in the following photo are much shorter.
There is one set of fuses that are "bridged", although I'm not sure if that is factory or owner bridged.
Here is a close-up of the inside of the domed fuse-cover. And the writing is all in German.
Anyone recognize this one and know more about it's uses and application. I don't remember seeing domed covers before, so I wonder if it is for a Porsche or other German car...
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Mission VW - San Fernando
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BulliBill Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:41 am Post subject: |
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Bump about the fuse box identification... Thanks!
Bill _________________ I'm looking for these license plate frames for my fleet:
Coeur D'Alene - Lake Shore Volkswagen
Mission VW - San Fernando
Thornton VW - Stockton
Thanks for any help! |
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