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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sensible answer. Thanks
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

95 is OBD2 and it is dual port exhaust.

It is the only 2.2 that is that way, the dual port exhaust is the same as the 96-99 2.5 DOHC motors.

You actually can swap a 95 2.2 into a 96-99 Forester or Outback that came with a DOHC 2.5, plug and go.


The 96-99 DOHC motors have the head gasket failures.

The 2000 and up still have head gasket failures but not to common, as common as a 2.2 or most other motors.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get the turbo for a daily, then another NA car for the donor! Cool At least check it out, if it's in decent shape, you might like it. I had a '91 turbo 5-spd sedan, for almost 10 years... lots of mods. They're great cars. Check out bbs(dot)legacycentral(dot)org, lots of early Subaru information there.

The turbo motors (EJ22T) are a closed-deck design, (relating to the cylinder water-jacket, regular EJ22s are open-deck) and although only put out 165 HP in stock form in the US, are capable of much more without touching the mechanicals. Look up the Impreza 22B... same block. The US-market turbos have no intercooler, and run only about 10psi boost (hence the low HP numbers) but are smooth and torquey, with a very small turbo that's on boost almost immediately (@ 1000 RPM), very suitable for a van.

Planting a turbo into a van is more work, mostly due to the exhaust and turbocharger placement, but the wiring and mounting is identical. Easier in a 2WD van.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jrobewesty wrote:
95 is OBD2 and it is dual port exhaust.

It is the only 2.2 that is that way, the dual port exhaust is the same as the 96-99 2.5 DOHC motors.


No, JDM had 95 2.2 obd1 single port, and they're available at any JDM importer. There's one sitting in my van.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As the OP lives in CA, the ONLY CA-legal swap is an OBD-I 2.2; pick your pre-95 year (avoid 90 due to oil control ring issues). You will have to use the complete Kennedy conversion kit if you have to deal with CARB/emissions testing in your neck of the woods unless you get lucky, but this is an expensive risk to take. This will get you an exemption barcode-once you have this, you can think about "upgrading" to a 2.5, etc.

The Yahoo Subaruvanagon site has been instrumental in my own conversion, running 7 years now with a 2002 2.5L SOHC engine. Best thing I have EVER done to my Westy-twice the HP, better mileage, and totally reliable.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep if he's in CA the talk about the 95"s doesn't matter. Stick with what you can get smogged.

For the 95 debate I was only talking about US cars not direct imports from Japan.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for that info for CA, I was wondering if such things happened with 2.5s. Curious about the 90-91 manual ej2.2 issue regarding interchangeability, if one installed one of these and later got say a 94 2.2 would the wiring harness just plug in, or do those unique parts create a need for more re-wiring?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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if one installed one of these and later got say a 94 2.2 would the wiring harness just plug in

No, different parts and wiring for them.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

but you could use that later 94 motor if you just hook up the long block in the place of the earlier motor's longblock.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew that there was something about the '95 cars. Quote from a respected member on the yahoo group-
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Q- Which year 2.2 is best?
A- Definitely a 95 or 96 that was built in 1995. They are both OBDII but exempt
until January 1996 production by Federal law.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

note that the OBD1 cars have more than just error codes. they use the Subaru Select Monitor protocol to monitor many different ECU parameters. software (both free and paid) is available to monitor these in realtime.

more information on the parameters and the software/hardware is available on my website: http://www.4bc.org/vanagon/engine.html.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my current 1995 donor is a single exhaust at the back and is OBD2. I wanted a 94 but this car was a steal($550). I am about an hour into removing the dash and three cuts later(my hand) and maybe another hour I will have the harness. wasn't as bad as I thought. I am looking forward to the OBD2 benefits(scanner that shows realtime engine info etc.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have converted a few '95s with OBD2 and they were all dual port exhaust.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you go vannygun! I just did that over the holidays and glad I did! It's a 90 though, and she's a little oily on #4 spark plug. shes nice and clean with new gaskets and belt. I did toms version 5 cooling system as well-
it self scavenges the air out of the back system. I still twist the radiator valve twice a month to keep the air out. You will find that auto parts store
hose clamps these days are chinese junk--specifically the "Ideal" brand
and "Koehler" loosen up as much as 3 turns in a week, initially shattering your self confidence until you realize how bad the clamps are.
factory bmw, mercedes and volvo clamps are corrugated, not slotted and have superior metallurgy to boot. I double them up. spring clamps suck. throw them out.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom's version 5?

I'm trying the search function with, Tom's and version and 5.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is concept #5(tom sheils)
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www.subaruvanagon.com is where you will find a ton of excellent conversion porn.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I second the advice on
legacycentral.org

And the EJ22T (the turbo version) is a BAD ASS motor. My DD is a '93 turbo Legacy - it's modified with about 250/270 (hp/tq) at the crank - FUN for a DD Twisted Evil But I really don't think I'd put one in a van myself - may be right for others though. The EJ22 is just about perfect for the vanagon (I have completed the conversion too - '92 EJ22 in my '85 Westy). Just replace all the seals and gaskets before you install and enjoy!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the picture. The search did turn up his name in one of the posts.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom is a great guy. Easy to talk to. Very professional. Does not mind the "stupid" questions when you get stuck. Very helpful. I used him for my harness, t-stat, reverse manifold and muffler mount. Everything was plug and play. Money well spent. Made for an easy conversion.....

Not to thread jack....but can or has the EJ22 turbo motor be used in california?
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