Reviving Bettie (69 Squareback)

Temmett · Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:08 am Post subject:

Here is a concept I threw together to see how it would look. The idea is to build an enjoyable car that will be a nice blend of functionality and asthetics. The goal is to build a vehicle that will hold two people comfortabaly (and their stuff) on a cross country trip. Some day down the road my wife and I would like to venture off on the road with no plans other than to drive and see the country. Kind of like a motorhome dream, but in a T3. Oh, and I'm on a very tight budget and must construct this car with that in mind. This concept includes a lowered stance, paint on the lower half of the nose - perhaps a tuffliner of some sort (?), painting the gold on my current wheels black, painting the running board area, Hella fog lamps, tinted windows, clear bullets, and improved brakes, oh and of course a VW hood emblem. Like I said this is a quick concept. I'm open to seasoned suggestions, and/or personal opinions.

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Mike Fisher · Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:35 am Post subject:

www.towerpaint.com can mix up VW diamond blue touch-up,rattle can or spray paint for you. I won't comment on painting your aluminum wheels black! Sick

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nerfer · Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:34 pm Post subject:

Bobnotch · Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:57 pm Post subject:

Other than the blacked out areas, and the roof rack, it would look like my old 69 Square. I know yours isn't it, as the kid who bought it is still driving it locally. Wink

He loved the window treatment I did too. Cool

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Temmett · Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:37 pm Post subject:

Here is the same concept but with two additional changes.

1. Wood slats to replace the metal ones. Since I'm stuck with the current roof rack configuration for a while at least I can suggest the look I want.

2. Blacked out roof rack rail.

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MLTIGGER2 · Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:06 pm Post subject:

Hey, it was nice to meet you at the Old Fort VW show. Too bad the weather didn't cooperate. It was nice to see a few typeIII's last year I don't think we had any. Also not sure this was the first time at this show but in the years past we had about 50 to 75 more cars show up.

Mike Smile

Temmett · Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:06 pm Post subject:

Yeah, it was good to mingle with the VW community in the flesh! One of the club members told me they had around 100 cars last year. I'm sure the rain played a part in the lower number of cars. I can't wait for the next one!
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1978 Westfalia - pre-purchase walk around
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MLTIGGER2 · Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:09 pm Post subject:

I like the Ypsilanti show up in Michigan and also the Toledo show will be coming up Smile

Zeen · Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:25 pm Post subject:

Temmett · Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:09 pm Post subject:

Bobnotch · Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:09 pm Post subject:

If the body shop you went to doesn't have a straightening rack, then you need to go somewhere else. The other persons insurance should pay to fix it, IF they hit you. Now IF you were at fault, then it's another story. You probably could buy the car back after they total it, but that's up to you. But I'd make them fix it.

But, from your pics, I'd try and pull it out myself first (after I got a check Wink

). If you have a friend with a pick up truck, or some other heavy vehicle, it would make it easier. I'd unbolt the rear bumper, and make up a couple of brackets to attach a chain, or cable to to use for pulling with. A couple of good yanks with the Square parked, and the heavy vehicle moving should get most of it right out. Then it would just be a matter of working the pinch points in the rear fenders, and anything else that still needed to be relieved to allow it to move back where it was. Paint the bare metal that's now exposed, and put it back together.
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71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120

Temmett · Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:39 pm Post subject:

Bobnotch, the other guy's insurance is picking up the tab. He rear ended me while I was sitting at a stop light. I have been to four body shops and only one would even look at it. Two said they don't do work on vehicles like mine and one said he wouldn't know where to start as far as putting together an estimate. Two of the shops told me that the insurance is probably just going to total it becuase it's going to cost more to fix than it's worth.

I like your idea for straightening it. If the insurance is going to cut me a check and I buy the vehicle back for the salvage price I should have some money to play with for fixing it. That's why I was considering using the parts from the other square. It has a lot of non-accident related pieces that I could use as well.

Thanks for your response.
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1978 Westfalia - pre-purchase walk around
1969 Squareback http://squarebackresto.wordpress.com/

Temmett · Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:10 pm Post subject:

Well, the insurance company cut me a check. I'm going to take Bobnotch's advice and attempt to straighten Bettie myself. Now I have some money to further the restoration effort. The engine is dependable but is in need of some fine tuning. I'm trying to figure out what to do first/next... any suggestions based on my pics? Bettie's my DD so I would like to make her mechanically sound as well as comfortable to ride in.

Where would you start?
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1978 Westfalia - pre-purchase walk around
1969 Squareback http://squarebackresto.wordpress.com/

Temmett · Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:43 pm Post subject:

Didn't have much time today to do anything major to Bettie. I did manage to get the dented bumper off. Any tips on removing the rear apron?

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1969 Squareback http://squarebackresto.wordpress.com/

Temmett · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:51 am Post subject:

Damage be gone! This week my wife and I implemented Bobnotch's straightening idea... and it worked like a champ! here is a link to some pics of the process and a video of our first attempt (we altered the technique after the video - switching vehicle positions and such).

http://squarebackresto.wordpress.com/2011/03/07/straightening-the-frame/
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1969 Squareback http://squarebackresto.wordpress.com/

MLTIGGER2 · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:59 am Post subject:

That is cool how you fixed that. In case you ever do want to take it to a body shop, Cook's Auto Body (Auburn)is willing and able to work on our older cars
He's on CR 35. I have used him on my older Jeep and on my '70 Beetle
I also know one of the Old Fort Members has used the body shop up in Waterloo, not sure of the name but it is right off 8 about a mile before 427
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